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EDIT Title was supposed to be CPL not CPF
I guess this came up the other day, and I have recieved a few emails, that range from curious to non-sensical ranting to downright rude. Here is my explanation.
If I know you, I trust I have a good idea of who you are, I still record full data.
If I don't know you, I want to have as complete a record of my sale as I can.
Why? Look at the Maldonado Case. He obtained his weapons through a face to face sales out of the little nickel. Maldonado had a criminal record, and was under an order not to possess firearms. Maybe a CPL or lack of, would have shown he was under age, may have sent up a red flag to the seller, maybe maybe not, but it is one more tool in the tool box.
I am not saying I distrust a buyer, not at all, but I do want a accurate record and a good feeling that I sold my weapon to a responsible party. Would you sell your car to anyone that walked up to you on the street who refused to identify themslves demanding no record of the sale? I hope not.
By asking for a CPL and a WADL, it is that much more difficult for someone who is not supposed to get a weapon to obtain one. It isn't full proof just a speed bump. But it does add to the credibility of the buyer. It tells, me they are at least 21 years old and at the time of issuance they had a clean criminal record. It is also another issued piece of id that will confirm and bolster the buyers ID.
I do not appreciate, being called names, and having my credibility attacked simply because I am trying to be responsible. Or being referred to as Hitler and compared to Nazi Germany. Or the other rumored political gunsiezing panics. If you do not wish to show ID, I urge you to look else where.
Since the contacts happened outside of the OCDO website I am not going to even make the effort to out anyone. Those that wrote the emails know who they are. Attacking me for trying to be responsible only shows you in a bad light.
I don't feel that asking for a DL, CPL, and board name is over the top, or the "Epidimy of Nazi Germany" as was written.
Please don't PM me for idenities, those that sent these emails know who they are.
Thank You.
EDIT Title was supposed to be CPL not CPF
I guess this came up the other day, and I have recieved a few emails, that range from curious to non-sensical ranting to downright rude. Here is my explanation.
If I know you, I trust I have a good idea of who you are, I still record full data.
If I don't know you, I want to have as complete a record of my sale as I can.
Why? Look at the Maldonado Case. He obtained his weapons through a face to face sales out of the little nickel. Maldonado had a criminal record, and was under an order not to possess firearms. Maybe a CPL or lack of, would have shown he was under age, may have sent up a red flag to the seller, maybe maybe not, but it is one more tool in the tool box.
I am not saying I distrust a buyer, not at all, but I do want a accurate record and a good feeling that I sold my weapon to a responsible party. Would you sell your car to anyone that walked up to you on the street who refused to identify themslves demanding no record of the sale? I hope not.
By asking for a CPL and a WADL, it is that much more difficult for someone who is not supposed to get a weapon to obtain one. It isn't full proof just a speed bump. But it does add to the credibility of the buyer. It tells, me they are at least 21 years old and at the time of issuance they had a clean criminal record. It is also another issued piece of id that will confirm and bolster the buyers ID.
I do not appreciate, being called names, and having my credibility attacked simply because I am trying to be responsible. Or being referred to as Hitler and compared to Nazi Germany. Or the other rumored political gunsiezing panics. If you do not wish to show ID, I urge you to look else where.
Since the contacts happened outside of the OCDO website I am not going to even make the effort to out anyone. Those that wrote the emails know who they are. Attacking me for trying to be responsible only shows you in a bad light.
I don't feel that asking for a DL, CPL, and board name is over the top, or the "Epidimy of Nazi Germany" as was written.
Please don't PM me for idenities, those that sent these emails know who they are.
Thank You.