And yet, you say over and over again how you don't OC to intimidate, and then, in the same paragraph, you say you do it EXACTLY for intimidation of BGs. It's either one or the other. I think we ALL know and agree that the primary purpose of OC is, in fact, to intimidate and deter BGs from seeing us as "easy prey". You can at least own that, rather than denying it, and then blaming people who aren't comfortable with guns for feeling put out when they see on on your hip.
I'm not sure "intimidation" is the proper word, but it is in the ballpark. I don't think I would 'intimidate' a bad guy, just make it clear that my immediate vicinity is a bad place to be a bad guy. Police don't intimidate me with their guns or their uniforms. It is a matter of threat perception. If you aren't planning anything bad, then there is nothing to be intimidated be.
What I AM arguing is the sociological, intellectual, and psychological tactics of educating the public and trying to get them over to our way of thinking. We're not going to do that by regaling them with tales of terror and bravery. We're going to do it by appealing to their sense of human decency, their belief in basic human rights, and their inherent sense of what is right and wrong. And I'm just saying that it's a LOT harder to do that when you are wearing something on your hip that, to them, is a symbol of fear and evil. That mindset is wrong, we can at least agree on that. But breaking through that brainwashing is going to be a lot harder when they are eyeballing your gun. That's all I'm saying.
I disagree. If they don't see it, and a total disassociation of my persona from what they have been fed, nothing will change for the better. Sure, it may be a shock to the system, but once they watch and see that I'm just another decent human being, not the wild crazy maniac they've been told, they are forced to call into question a great many lies they've fallen for. Maybe some people just aren't that bright. Maybe some are too absorbed in their anti-gun crusade. For these, nothing will work anyway. But for all of the more active, personal, and time consuming methods of de-programming the lies (as effective as they may be) nothing compares to the sheer volume of contact that just walking around with a gun can generate. This is part of what CC was about; no one talks or thinks about it. Out of sight, out of mind. The anti propaganda still flourishes without any counter. Google quotes from anti's who conceded support for CC laws and licenses. They're all about 'being glad' that Big Brother has a short leash on 'those kind of people.' nobody knows that 'gun toting' isn't comprised of 'those kind of people' unless the gun can be seen as it is toted. The whole straw man visage of only manics having guns is the crux of their position, and unless the public actually SEES what a lie that is, it will stand.
The public has been fed a steady diet of fear and negative propaganda regarding guns for decades. Many of them believe the lies. Appealing to their logic, their belief in human rights, and their beliefs that all law-abiding people have a natural right to defend themselves is our best tactic, in my opinion.
I couldn't agree more. But the anti's have mass media trumpeting their agenda for free on every TV and newspaper on the planet. We need something equally massive. 1 and 2 people a year being gradually convinced is nothing compared to the sea of suckers the anti's make with their drive-by media. A visible gun has many purposes at once, regardless of the intent of the carrier. Even if a guy is ego-tripping off of it, 'strutting' as you say, the world still sees that he isn't on a killing spree, and cannot deny what they observe with their own eyes. Do their brains process it.... Maybe, maybe not. But a person's own perception is more convincing than any agenda driven word. And that is how they see 'the gun lobby,' because their TV tells them to see it that way.
You obviously need to OC, because your environment is, from your reports, fairly dangerous and full of insane predators. That sucks, and I feel bad for you if that is the case. If your environment is that dangerous, then I FULLY support your right to OC, because it's not merely a matter of "activism", it's a matter of survival. Your reasons for OC are a LOT more practical than a lot of the folks on this forum. You've got a tough row to hoe, and I don't envy you that.
It always happens 'where you least expect it.' "But this is such a good neighborhood..." All 4 of my incidents have occurred in places 'you wouldn't expect it.' Upscale parts of town, well lit, etc... I 'feel' safer in the ghetto, because nothing bad has ever happened to me there.
Your main antagonists are, from your report, mainly insane criminals, thugs, and BGs. Again, I don't envy you that. There but for the grace of God go I.
Bad guys don't say in 'their own part of town.' Who can you rob in the ghetto? Everyone there is broke anyway, what's the point?
My main antagonists (when I'm not at work), where I currently live, are generally going to be uninformed LEO's and hysterical soccer moms. I carry because I work the "graveyard shift" as a night auditor in a hotel on the edge of a "dicey" neighborhood. We've had some pretty dangerous episodes in the last few months--on our property, and in the adjacent neighborhoods. My employer doesn't want me to OC while on the clock, but doesn't have a problem with me CC. I'd rather have my Para "tucked" than not at all, so that's why I CC at work. I hope I never have to pull my firearm, but I've got no problem--mentally, ethically, or morally--with using it if I must, because I want to come home every morning in the same condition I left home in. I love my family too much to be a victim.
I carry because I am a tool-using human. I have no more details for my reasoning. I just want to use my tools in the most effective manner possible, and have learned the hard way that CC isn't it. You might call CC the next best thing, but it doesn't prevent, and 'surprise' is wasted because if someone is already attacking you, they sprung the jig, and there is no surprise to be had... Except that reaching into your pocket for your gun could get you dead. I prefer eliminating that possibility, not trying to call it some kind of advantage.
This is a relatively peaceful town. Most of the folks that live here are quiet, polite, and genteel.
That's exactly my point. Read any report of violence, and that's what they all say.
I think that the OC movement would be much better served if the "street tactical" and "social engineering" folks could have a civil conversation and join forces, rather than the "tactical" folks thinking anyone who doesn't OC 24/7 is a wuss, and accusing them of being "closet Brady-ites"
I haven't said any such thing. Just that those who try to pass off an obvious deficiency as an advantage, will get a very rude wake-up if/when their number is up. People who fall for it are at least still carrying. But the division over this matter is a sad case of propaganda surviving even in the face of those who would claim to do away with it. I rarely state my intent, nor do I cite, becasue I want people to use their own brains to wake up and realize "Woah, I've been had!" No reason to take my word for it. And I greatly prefer people not having to learn the hard way. Not everyone mentally prepares themselves for the circumstances I've been in, I cannot keep a straight face and imagine what might have been were I as mentally ill-prepared as I have been accused of. The fact that my son and I have survived it intact is quite enough proof to the contrary.
But I'm tired of explaining myself, and I'm tired of you making all sorts of accusations and presumptions about where I'm coming from or what my abilities are.
I've only returned the insult and sarcasm to show how silly it is.
You think I'm a slick talker who is trying to chatter my way into changing the world. And I think you are a confrontational cowboy, and the kind of person who will eventually do something that sets our movement back 20 years. I doubt we'll ever have a meeting of the minds on the social or psychological tactics with regards to OC activism, because apparently we live and move in VERY different worlds.
Exposing this matter is precisely my ulterior motive.