Glad you got your gun back! This seems to be the norm on traffic stops - placing the gun out of your control till the cop leaves - ...did he take all the rounds out of your magazine, or just put the loaded magazine in a separate bag?
It was a revolver, so he put the gun in one bag and the rounds in the other.
Every report I've heard of similar incidents (minor traffic infraction in which the alleged violator was OC or CC) include these unlawful orders to open your private storage to inspection (aka SEARCH). Officer safety may be a justifiable reason to temporarily seize a weapon in some circumstances (the armed individual must be considered "dangerous" (cite please!) and the stop must be non-consensual), but treating every individual as DANGEROUS on every stop is IMHO abusive.
I realize police officers are allowed to LIE to you, and it's considered an effective interrogation tactic, but why LIE to regular citizens as a matter of practice? Arrest you for not having your blue card? Maybe the officer simply doesn't know the blue card isn't required to be carried with you. Such intimidation should only be used when there is UNQUESTIONABLE AUTHORITY. The officer not knowing whether it's required to be carried is far from unquestionable authority. If the officer KNEW (wrongfully of course) the blue card must be carried, it's a major training issue that needs to be resolved immediately!
To me, this officer safety intrusion only goes so far. What if you had refused to open your saddle bags to search? How would the weapon have been returned in a manner which made the officer feel safe? Hand you the unloaded weapon and place the magazine on the seat of your bike and order you not to move until he pulls away? Place a zip tie around the action of the firearm so he has time to pull away? Field-strip and remove the barrel? Any number of ways to handle it other than to demand an unlawful search of your bags.
I knew I was waiving my rights by opening my saddle bags, but the stop was almost over and I just wanted to be on my way. I knew what he was up to and the bags were empty so I agreed. What bothers me is most citizens wouldn't know that they could refuse.
I don't drive a bike (though I'd like to learn - any suggestions on riding school?), and haven't been pulled over for a while now, I think mainly because I drive a throw-away economy car that doesn't like to go very fast. ;-)
Check out the Motorcycle Safety Foundation website. They should have some classes in the area. Its a great class for people who have never ridden. And after you pass the class you can take the card they give you down to the DMV and they will put the endorsement on your license without taking their written or road test.
However, next time (and I know there will be a next time!) I get pulled over, I will take one for the team and refuse everything I am lawfully able to refuse. I know this is difficult for many people because of the intimidation factor, the hassle factor (this probably results in the stop being as long and painful as allowed under the law), and the threat of going to jail for a traffic infraction as a form of punishment for my noncompliance (which the Supreme Court upheld as permissible - see ATWATER et al. v. CITY OF LAGO VISTA).
Ugh, I'm so frustrated. Reading these reports really inspire me to take another Strip walk, anyone else want to join me
? I won't be carrying ID or anything else for that matter. I'll have socks, shoes, jeans, underwear, belt, shirt, holster, gun, voice recorder. No ID, no cash, no credit card, no blue card, nothing else other than what I listed. Maybe I'll stick my CCW and DL in my shoe just in case the cops try to lie and accuse me of concealing without a permit. I'm thinking November 2. That's the day AFTER the deadline for the mandatory OC training.