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    So i was thinking yesterday, from what I understand only violent crimes and such can stop you from owning a firearm and carrying. What about moving violations, what if they issue a warrant for non payment on a speeding ticket, or no turn signal or something similar? Can something simple eventually stop you?

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    Not by my experience. I have had several moving violations, and warrants for non payment in a timely manner.(several years ago)

    I have been granted my CWP. Perhaps a current warrant would be an issue. I dont know for sure.



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    I just thought it might be funny,

    Sir im going to have to confiscate that weapon.
    Well why officer
    you have a warrant
    a warrant!
    yes, seems like in '96 someone thought they were to cool for turn signals.

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    ya that would be funny.

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    younggun20 wrote:
    So i was thinking yesterday, from what I understand only violent crimes and such can stop you from owning a firearm and carrying. What about moving violations, what if they issue a warrant for non payment on a speeding ticket, or no turn signal or something similar? Can something simple eventually stop you?
    Actually, a conviction for any felony--including non-violent felonies like tax evasion or violation of the endangered species act--results in loss of the RKBA. I believe that a dishonorable discharge from the military--again, for any reason, violent or technical--has the same effect. And of course any "domestic violence" misdemeanor also kills RKBA. So too does involuntary commitment to a mental institution.

    Then, there are a whole host of lessor and even minor offenses which will result in denial or revocation of a Utah firearm carry permit. These include ANY drug related crime such as DUI, simple possession of marijuana, and so on. Crimes of "moral turpitude" (anything that calls into question your character and judgment) can also result in denial or revocation of a permit to carry. Such things might be as minor as shoplifting, or as major as statutory rape of a willing but under-age partner.

    I am not a lawyer. And I am neither defending nor attacking any position with these statements. These are merely my best understandings of current law.

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    An outstanding or unpaid traffic violation will prevent you from getting a CFP or purchasing a firearm but the restriction is lifted as soon as it is paid.

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    younggun20 wrote:
    So i was thinking yesterday, from what I understand only violent crimes and such can stop you from owning a firearm and carrying. What about moving violations, what if they issue a warrant for non payment on a speeding ticket, or no turn signal or something similar? Can something simple eventually stop you?
    76-2-101. Requirements of criminal conduct and criminal responsibility.
    (1) (a) A person is not guilty of an offense unless the person's conduct is prohibited by law; and
    (b) (i) the person acts intentionally, knowingly, recklessly, with criminal negligence, or with a
    mental state otherwise specified in the statute defining the offense, as the definition of the offense requires; or
    (ii) the person's acts constitute an offense involving strict liability.
    (2) These standards of criminal responsibility do not apply to the violations set forth in Title 41, Chapter 6a,
    Traffic Code, unless specifically provided by law
    .
    Amended by Chapter 2, 2005 General Session

    IANAL though Looks like traffic stuff is just an infraction. However, there is probably other code I am not aware of that escalates the infraction to higher state if they are unpaid and a warrant is issued. I would imagine they could yank your permit if it ends up being a warrant. They usually send you notice in the mail before it reaches that point though, so it would be a rare situation.

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    Well i guess it would make sense a warrant is a warrant

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