J.Gleason wrote:
bnhcomputing wrote:
I would prefer to avoid bashing any member, but I must point out that Mr. German suggestedthe novel idea of the county resolutions for Wisconsin. He put a great deal of time into them, gathering signature, etc. It was at the point where the resolutions/petitions were submitted that Mr. German veered from his stated course.
My concern for his suggestion is that it does indeed come from an "instructor" who stands to gain financially from what was suggested. In addition, I thought he (German) was a Minnesota resident. I would hope that our legislature would take input from state residents rather than non-residents.
Having said that, there is merit to SOME of what he suggests.
Here is my plan:
1. Any adult, or emancipated minor may poses a firearm and/or CC permit. Said individuals do not have a duty to retreat anywhere they may lawfully be.
2. No landlord may post or restrict.
3. A CC permitting system, with reciprocity with the other states.
4. CC permits should be something we apply for at the SAME places we buy our firearms. The same background check is sufficient. If I can purchase the firearm, then I get the permit. I would accept a small processing fee payable to the state for printing/mailing the permit.
5. Voluntary inclusion on a "law enforcement" list.
6. If any individual has a defensive gun use and is found not criminally liable by court order or investigation, they are granted immunity from civil prosecution.
7. The penalty for violating a permit holders rights (unlawful posting, unlawful detainmentfor example) is a $5,000 fine per permit holder per occurrence. This applies to ALL individuals including LEO who are individually responsible for said forfeiture.
8. If you loose your abilityto legally possess a firearm, then you loose the permit. This is the ONLY way to loose the permit.
9. The issuing authority is not liable for the acts of permit holders.
We use this as a start then repeal the tavern, and school zone laws.
And no mandatory training?
Some training good, more training better.
Required training (who, how much, at what cost, how many training classes are offered), to many variables, and takes us down the money road. A right can be exercised regardless of socio-economic class.
Just look at Hunter Safety Education, I taught five classes this year, turned people away from each one, and still here about how difficult it is to find a class.
If trainingisn't profitable for the trainer, we will have the same problem. If it is profitable for the trainer, then it will most likely be cost prohibitive for the trainee.
10% unemployment means 10% who cannot afford the training, meaning 10% who cannot partake of the privilege.
Nope, you can have babies without required training, you can vote without any required training, you can go to church without required training, you can speak your mind without required training, I say you are entitled to your self-defense rights without any limiting economic factors, such as training.
