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    Kind of make's you think about the way things are going today...


    "Both 'socialism' and 'fascism' involve the issue of property rights. The right to property is the right of use and disposal. Observe the difference in those two theories: socialism negates private property rights altogether, and advocates the 'vesting of ownership and control' in the community as a whole, i.e., in the state; fascism leaves ownership in the hands of private individuals, but transfers control of the property to the government. Ownership without control is a contradiction in terms: it means 'property,' without the right to use it or to dispose of it. It means that the citizens retain the responsibility of holding property, without any of its advantages, while the government acquires all the advantages without any of the responsibility. In this respect, socialism is the more honest of the two theories. I say 'more honest,' not better - because, in practice, there is no difference between them: both come from the same collectivist-statist principle, both negate individual rights and subordinate the individual to the collective, both deliver the livelihood and the lives of the citizens into the power of an omnipotent government - and the differences between them are only a matter of time, degree, and superficial detail, such as the choice of slogans by which the rulers delude their enslaved subjects."
    - From "The New Fascism: Rule by Consensus"

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    For anyone not familiar with Ayn Rand...

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ayn_Rand

    Author of Atlas Shrugged...

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlas_Shrugged

    Also, the basis for the character Andrew Ryan, in Bioshock :P

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bioshock

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    Of course, she was correct: what we have now isn't socialism, it's fascism. I've been trying to point that out to those claiming Obama is a socialist.

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    I've read her first book "We the Living" and am currently reading "Atlas Shrugged" for the first time. I'm quite enjoying it and fully intend to pick up some of her non-fiction work in the future.

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    Those who expect to reap the benefits of freedom, must, like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it. Thomas Paine

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    Hmmmm... Ron Paul's son's first name is Rand.

    Carry on

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    jmlefler wrote:
    Hmmmm... Ron Paul's son's first name is Rand.
    In one of his videos, he explains that contrary to the myth, he's not named for Ayn Rand. His given name is Randall.

    Bronson, I think you'll enjoy The Fountainhead as her best work of fiction.

    You should also look at some of the essay collections. It's hilarious to read what Alan Greenspan had to say about the Federal Reserve and the gold standard back in 1963 before he sold out.

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    In 1913 Atlas shrugged, On Nov 4th 2008 Atlas drop kicked the globe in to ditch then stomped on it...

    Funny how the left can liken bush to Hitler (Kennedy on the Senate floor) & write books on how to assasinate Bush, but if you call Barry HUSSEIN Obama a fascist your decisive, intolerant, narrow minded.



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