EM87
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Is there any way to do this, or is semi auto the best I can ever get?
Is there any way to do this, or is semi auto the best I can ever get?
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How do you legally own a gun with selective fire?
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EM87
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I just realized that my example was wrong. An AR-15 is only semi auto, a variant of the M16 series assault rifles. I assume the AK can be full auto though.
I just realized that my example was wrong. An AR-15 is only semi auto, a variant of the M16 series assault rifles. I assume the AK can be full auto though.
Michigander
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That's a complicated and expensive subject, but it's all over the web. Many people, including myself have described the process of buying NFA weapons many times.
Google something like "NFA weapon registering" or "legal full autos" or anything like that, and you'll get more info on the subject than you can possibly wish to read.
That's a complicated and expensive subject, but it's all over the web. Many people, including myself have described the process of buying NFA weapons many times.
Google something like "NFA weapon registering" or "legal full autos" or anything like that, and you'll get more info on the subject than you can possibly wish to read.
dougwg
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fill out the ATF forms
pay the $200 tax stamp
Get your CLEO to sign off on the forms or make a "trust" with something like "Will Maker".
oh....and save your penny's cuz it will cost you around $16-$25K for a M16
fill out the ATF forms
pay the $200 tax stamp
Get your CLEO to sign off on the forms or make a "trust" with something like "Will Maker".
oh....and save your penny's cuz it will cost you around $16-$25K for a M16
EM87
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dougwg wrote:
:what: That's... wow. Expensive. Thanks for the info, you two!
dougwg wrote:
:what: That's... wow. Expensive. Thanks for the info, you two!
rudedude
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Isn't the main difference between a AR-15 and a M16.
Just the trigger assembly.
I have looked over the schematics between both.
And have wondered about building up a M16 trigger assembly..
In the event of swapping parts from my AR-15, in the event it becomes legal of course
Wouldyou still need to get it blessed ???
Isn't the main difference between a AR-15 and a M16.
Just the trigger assembly.
I have looked over the schematics between both.
And have wondered about building up a M16 trigger assembly..
In the event of swapping parts from my AR-15, in the event it becomes legal of course
Wouldyou still need to get it blessed ???
Michigander
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If it ever becomes legal, or if you ever get a manufactures license, or if you are eager to commit a felony, or if you become rich and want to get a registered one, a lightning link or DIAS is probably the easiest full auto AR conversion.
If it ever becomes legal, or if you ever get a manufactures license, or if you are eager to commit a felony, or if you become rich and want to get a registered one, a lightning link or DIAS is probably the easiest full auto AR conversion.
T Vance
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I own an AK-47 (semi-automatic), and I have several 40 round magazines for it. I took a video of myself unloading a 40 magazine as fast as I could and was able to do it in just under 10 seconds.
IMO, save your money and just get a semi-automatic.
I own an AK-47 (semi-automatic), and I have several 40 round magazines for it. I took a video of myself unloading a 40 magazine as fast as I could and was able to do it in just under 10 seconds.
IMO, save your money and just get a semi-automatic.
Michigander
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T Vance wrote:
Maybe NSFW. BAD LANGUAGE WARNING
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_rIVfmjkvW4
T Vance wrote:
Yep, and maybe modify a T6 into bump stock.
Maybe NSFW. BAD LANGUAGE WARNING
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_rIVfmjkvW4
rudedude
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Thanks..
But with the cost of ammo going up..
I would rather have a supressor....
But in the event conversions become legal for us pee on's, its good to know the options..
Are Suppressors legal ????
Thanks..
But with the cost of ammo going up..
I would rather have a supressor....
But in the event conversions become legal for us pee on's, its good to know the options..
Are Suppressors legal ????
Michigander
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rudedude wrote:
:cuss::banghead:
rudedude wrote:
Yes! But only if you're in a free state.
:cuss::banghead:
rudedude
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Arent we a free state in People's Republic of Michigan...
Oh wait I forgot....
Arent we a free state in People's Republic of Michigan...
Oh wait I forgot....
JeffSayers
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I thought you could become a felon by simply putting a file to the sear?
I thought you could become a felon by simply putting a file to the sear?
wrightme
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Nevada is a "free state," wrt to the subject. In fact, just a week ago, my son and I went to a gun shop and had a nice G-3 .308 in our hands. Until we gave it back since almost $10,000 was more than I desired to spend that day.
Nevada is a "free state," wrt to the subject. In fact, just a week ago, my son and I went to a gun shop and had a nice G-3 .308 in our hands. Until we gave it back since almost $10,000 was more than I desired to spend that day.
Michigander
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Full auto's are legal here too. Just not cans, or switch blades, or sbs's/sbr's, or tasers, or effective pepper spray, or owning a handgun or carrying it in a car without government permission. The cops can be really bad too.:cuss:
Full auto's are legal here too. Just not cans, or switch blades, or sbs's/sbr's, or tasers, or effective pepper spray, or owning a handgun or carrying it in a car without government permission. The cops can be really bad too.:cuss:
mikestilly
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I've spoke to a couple class 3 FFL's in Michigan and it's not as hard as it seems to get a machine gun. Many will work with you on getting setup. I wouldnt even bother getting a CLEO signoff and go straight to setting up a trust which is quick and easy. As for the price yes it's expensive but not all full auto's are $10k. Here are some examples well under $10k
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=144567875
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=144123206
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=144492772
Boy I bet this Thompson would be fun to shoot
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=143973819
I've spoke to a couple class 3 FFL's in Michigan and it's not as hard as it seems to get a machine gun. Many will work with you on getting setup. I wouldnt even bother getting a CLEO signoff and go straight to setting up a trust which is quick and easy. As for the price yes it's expensive but not all full auto's are $10k. Here are some examples well under $10k
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=144567875
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=144123206
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=144492772
Boy I bet this Thompson would be fun to shoot
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=143973819
office888
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Michigander wrote:
Curio & Relic Short Barrel Shotguns are legal.
Aka, your sawed off black-powder 10gauge that was made in 1880! Haaah.
God, I want a suppressor for my AR15. AAC has some sweet merch for sale. Think we can get Mike Cox to overturn that ruling?
-Richard-
Michigander wrote:
You're a little off.
Curio & Relic Short Barrel Shotguns are legal.
Aka, your sawed off black-powder 10gauge that was made in 1880! Haaah.
God, I want a suppressor for my AR15. AAC has some sweet merch for sale. Think we can get Mike Cox to overturn that ruling?
-Richard-
Michigander
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office888 wrote:
And about Mike Cox, he hasn't, and unless he does, I won't vote for him. I believe it was the efforts of Bust off from subguns nagging him with letters that got him to write the full auto opinion. Mike doesn't seem too deeply concerned about us.
office888 wrote:
Very true. I believe all C and R stuff is Michigan legal.You're a little off.
Curio & Relic Short Barrel Shotguns are legal.
Aka, your sawed off black-powder 10gauge that was made in 1880! Haaah.
God, I want a suppressor for my AR15. AAC has some sweet merch for sale. Think we can get Mike Cox to overturn that ruling?
-Richard-
And about Mike Cox, he hasn't, and unless he does, I won't vote for him. I believe it was the efforts of Bust off from subguns nagging him with letters that got him to write the full auto opinion. Mike doesn't seem too deeply concerned about us.
1245A Defender
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EM87 wrote:
get your AK-47 . for 30$ buy full auto trigger assy. buy the hole drilling guide kit, to convert your reciever, file a slot in same for the auto sear to fit.
if the full auto parts are not in proximity to the rifle, you are not a felon.
put it together and rock n roll! you need a trusted friend to have the bad parts away from the good parts, but be carefull, the batf will try to find your friend and bribe him to testify against you and put you in prison for ever! see "olfson"
"you didnt hear this from me", and ive only read about this, never done this!
if someone in the know ever saw the extra holes in your AK! they would know what you were up to.
EM87 wrote:
get your AK-47 . for 30$ buy full auto trigger assy. buy the hole drilling guide kit, to convert your reciever, file a slot in same for the auto sear to fit.
if the full auto parts are not in proximity to the rifle, you are not a felon.
put it together and rock n roll! you need a trusted friend to have the bad parts away from the good parts, but be carefull, the batf will try to find your friend and bribe him to testify against you and put you in prison for ever! see "olfson"
"you didnt hear this from me", and ive only read about this, never done this!
if someone in the know ever saw the extra holes in your AK! they would know what you were up to.
malignity
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Learn to bump fire.
(Check Youtube for examples; it can be done from the hip or the shoulder)
Learn to bump fire.
(Check Youtube for examples; it can be done from the hip or the shoulder)