ODA 226
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You could OC a rocket launcher and the cops would still overlook you. I think the most that you would get out of an officer would be, "What is that? That is cool!"Never
ODA 226 wrote:You could OC a rocket launcher and the cops would still overlook you. I think the most that you would get out of an officer would be, "What is that? That is cool!"Never
he asked for my license and registration and i said ok, let me get that out of my wallet. then i reached for my wallet. i'm not required to tell him so i didn't.Flowmaster wrote:wow. I know there is no duty to inform but I personally would never "reach" for anything while a LEO was present while carrying without informing him and discussing my intentions first. He could have been distracted with traffic, things going on at home, etc.. re glances at you, sees you reaching and gun on your hip.. you just painted the picture of an Oops.he had to have seen my gun. i'm left handed so i keep my wallet in my left back pocket and i had to sort of lift myself up out of my seat to get to my wallet. when i did so, i basically pointed my left hip out the window, just to make sure he saw it.
Why would you not just tell him your intent and that you (and your friend) are OC so that there are no surprises for anyone?
Ed
CRF250rider1000 wrote:I did find a great VCDL attorney that would have taken the case on a contingency basis. The problem for me was that even with him taking contingency, I would still be paying somewhere in the $2000-$3000 range for everything. :?
WTF??? That's not a true contingency basis if they wanted $2,000 to $3,000 up front. My attorney takes my case(s), gets an award (or settlement), take his office expenses out, take his agreed upon percentage out, and sends me the rest. And I have been extremely pleased with his services and fees.
I guess I should clarify this a little though. My cases were not "good". They were "extremely good!" Win - win cases.
The only thing I even remotely disliked about my cases was the settlement phases. after their fighting tooth and nail for years in each case, the settlements let the defendants continue to claim no wrongdoing, and forbids me from saying how much they had to pay me in each case.
you dont get it. you can still be RIGHT and be injured or dead. We just disagree.ed wrote:he asked for my license and registration and i said ok, let me get that out of my wallet. then i reached for my wallet. i'm not required to tell him so i didn't.Flowmaster wrote:wow. I know there is no duty to inform but I personally would never "reach" for anything while a LEO was present while carrying without informing him and discussing my intentions first. He could have been distracted with traffic, things going on at home, etc.. re glances at you, sees you reaching and gun on your hip.. you just painted the picture of an Oops.he had to have seen my gun. i'm left handed so i keep my wallet in my left back pocket and i had to sort of lift myself up out of my seat to get to my wallet. when i did so, i basically pointed my left hip out the window, just to make sure he saw it.
Why would you not just tell him your intent and that you (and your friend) are OC so that there are no surprises for anyone?
Ed
Flowmaster wrote:you dont get it. you can still be RIGHT and be injured or dead. We just disagree.ed wrote:he asked for my license and registration and i said ok, let me get that out of my wallet. then i reached for my wallet. i'm not required to tell him so i didn't.Flowmaster wrote:wow. I know there is no duty to inform but I personally would never "reach" for anything while a LEO was present while carrying without informing him and discussing my intentions first. He could have been distracted with traffic, things going on at home, etc.. re glances at you, sees you reaching and gun on your hip.. you just painted the picture of an Oops.he had to have seen my gun. i'm left handed so i keep my wallet in my left back pocket and i had to sort of lift myself up out of my seat to get to my wallet. when i did so, i basically pointed my left hip out the window, just to make sure he saw it.
Why would you not just tell him your intent and that you (and your friend) are OC so that there are no surprises for anyone?
Ed
I have an excellent attorney.
I don't know what the cop could see... so I err on the side of safety.. and restate the obvious. "Hi officer, before I reach for my wallet in my back pocket, I just wanted to tell you that I am carrying a loaded firearm on my right hip". That statement does a few things.. It helps ensure I will come home to see Brookie, it "tags" my voice recorder with that statement so that if the cop says he was surprised or that he could not see it, etc., according to some cops (most I have asked) they REALLY appreciated the consideration.. so much in fact that you might get off the speed thing with a warning.ed wrote:Flowmaster wrote:you dont get it. you can still be RIGHT and be injured or dead. We just disagree.ed wrote:he asked for my license and registration and i said ok, let me get that out of my wallet. then i reached for my wallet. i'm not required to tell him so i didn't.Flowmaster wrote:wow. I know there is no duty to inform but I personally would never "reach" for anything while a LEO was present while carrying without informing him and discussing my intentions first. He could have been distracted with traffic, things going on at home, etc.. re glances at you, sees you reaching and gun on your hip.. you just painted the picture of an Oops.he had to have seen my gun. i'm left handed so i keep my wallet in my left back pocket and i had to sort of lift myself up out of my seat to get to my wallet. when i did so, i basically pointed my left hip out the window, just to make sure he saw it.
Why would you not just tell him your intent and that you (and your friend) are OC so that there are no surprises for anyone?
Ed
Hold up.... He was OC'ing so the cop would have had to been able to see the gun right?
A little verbose for my taste, but does the job.Hi officer, before I reach for my wallet in my back pocket, I just wanted to tell you that I am carrying a loaded firearm on my right hip