Thundar
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Next public meeting is 10 November.
Link: http://www.portsmouthva.gov/council/schedule.aspx
Next public meeting is 10 November.
Link: http://www.portsmouthva.gov/council/schedule.aspx
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When is VCDL going to the Portsmouth City Council? TONIGHT!!
- Thread starter Thundar
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I'm already planning to be there.
Hope to see you again acouple of weeks later at the Richmond City Council meeting. Just be sure not to sign downstairs when attending the open meeting.:uhoh:
stay safe.
skidmark
I'm already planning to be there.
Hope to see you again acouple of weeks later at the Richmond City Council meeting. Just be sure not to sign downstairs when attending the open meeting.:uhoh:
stay safe.
skidmark
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ccloud43
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I'll be there for this one also, though I'm not from portsmouth, I'm gonna ask around for a good resturant to go to after the meeting
I'll be there for this one also, though I'm not from portsmouth, I'm gonna ask around for a good resturant to go to after the meeting
fully_armed_biker
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I live in Portsmouth and I'll be there! My wife probably will be too.
I live in Portsmouth and I'll be there! My wife probably will be too.
mobeewan
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wylde007
Regular Member
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I have already apologized to PVC for not being able to attend.
The missus and I will be on a much-needed holiday. Our prayers and blessings go with you all for pressing on for liberty.
I have already apologized to PVC for not being able to attend.
The missus and I will be on a much-needed holiday. Our prayers and blessings go with you all for pressing on for liberty.
fully_armed_biker
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Just wanted to bring this back up to the top...the city council meeting is tonight.
Just wanted to bring this back up to the top...the city council meeting is tonight.
Mike
Site Co-Founder
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Everybody who lives in Portsmout or nearby should attend the city council meeting tonight and join in re the VCDL speak out against that cuity's myors collaboration with Myor Bloomberg
Everybody who lives in Portsmout or nearby should attend the city council meeting tonight and join in re the VCDL speak out against that cuity's myors collaboration with Myor Bloomberg
RipCurl
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I will be there.
I will be there.
fully_armed_biker
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My wife and I will be too!!!
My wife and I will be too!!!
Mike
Site Co-Founder
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Let's roll on this one!
we have a 2=fer - the mayor is in cahoots with Bloomberg, and the city has an illegal gun ban on the books5 years after full preemption was passed in Virginia!
Let's roll on this one!
we have a 2=fer - the mayor is in cahoots with Bloomberg, and the city has an illegal gun ban on the books5 years after full preemption was passed in Virginia!
darthmord
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I'd love to go tonight but I have pre-existing obligations (specifically, a promise to help a friend) I must attend to.
Know that I'm there in spirit.
I'd love to go tonight but I have pre-existing obligations (specifically, a promise to help a friend) I must attend to.
Know that I'm there in spirit.
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Side note from Va-Alert:
Interesting to note that there is currently an effort to recall Mayor
Holley after the City Council asked him to resign and he refused. Bob
Marcus, with Bob's Gun in Norfolk, is leading the way:
http://hamptonroads.com/2009/11/push-recall-portsmouth-mayor-gains-momentum
Push to recall Portsmouth mayor gains momentum Posted to: Elections
News Portsmouth
By Jen McCaffery
The Virginian-Pilot
PORTSMOUTH
An effort to recall Mayor James Holley got a boost this week with the
gathering of more signatures and the formation of a political action
committee.
About sixteen volunteers fanned out at precincts around the city and
gathered 2,415 more signatures on Election Day, according to Pat
Simons, one of the organizers.
That adds to the more than 2,800 signatures that were gathered as of
Oct. 23 but still does not give the anti-Holley movement the 7,500
needed to force a recall vote.
Portsmouth resident and Norfolk gun dealer Robert Marcus launched a
political action committee to bolster the recall campaign.
"We're well on our way now," Marcus said. He anticipated that a door-
to-door effort to get additional signatures would begin.
The effort to recall Holley came shortly after members of City Council
asked him to resign and Holley refused.
Before that, council members fined him $2,500 in connection for using
his city assistant to perform personal tasks including canceling his
Playboy subscription.
Holley has said he is not walking away from his office.
Holley, who is in his fifth term, was recalled once before in 1987 in
connection with a hate mail campaign.
Holley did not return a message left at his home Tuesday night.
Yata hey
Side note from Va-Alert:
Interesting to note that there is currently an effort to recall Mayor
Holley after the City Council asked him to resign and he refused. Bob
Marcus, with Bob's Gun in Norfolk, is leading the way:
http://hamptonroads.com/2009/11/push-recall-portsmouth-mayor-gains-momentum
Push to recall Portsmouth mayor gains momentum Posted to: Elections
News Portsmouth
By Jen McCaffery
The Virginian-Pilot
PORTSMOUTH
An effort to recall Mayor James Holley got a boost this week with the
gathering of more signatures and the formation of a political action
committee.
About sixteen volunteers fanned out at precincts around the city and
gathered 2,415 more signatures on Election Day, according to Pat
Simons, one of the organizers.
That adds to the more than 2,800 signatures that were gathered as of
Oct. 23 but still does not give the anti-Holley movement the 7,500
needed to force a recall vote.
Portsmouth resident and Norfolk gun dealer Robert Marcus launched a
political action committee to bolster the recall campaign.
"We're well on our way now," Marcus said. He anticipated that a door-
to-door effort to get additional signatures would begin.
The effort to recall Holley came shortly after members of City Council
asked him to resign and Holley refused.
Before that, council members fined him $2,500 in connection for using
his city assistant to perform personal tasks including canceling his
Playboy subscription.
Holley has said he is not walking away from his office.
Holley, who is in his fifth term, was recalled once before in 1987 in
connection with a hate mail campaign.
Holley did not return a message left at his home Tuesday night.
Yata hey
TFred
Regular Member
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Any reports from the meeting? I've seen nothing so far!
TFred
Any reports from the meeting? I've seen nothing so far!
TFred
Thundar
Regular Member
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Philip sent out a VCDL Mini update. I would link it but am limited on my phone.
Philip sent out a VCDL Mini update. I would link it but am limited on my phone.
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VCDL mini-update
Yata hey
1. Yesterday's Portsmouth protest had to first overcome gun ban in
City Hall
*****************************************************************
Yesterday 24 VCDL members showed up at the Portsmouth City Hall to
support VCDL urging the Mayor to drop his membership in the
disgraceful Mayors Against Illegal Guns (MAIG) - a front for generic
gun control run by New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg.
The first problem we had was a requirement that you sign in and show
photo ID. Board member John Fenter is working to get that fixed.
Under the Freedom of Information Act they cannot turn someone away
from a public meeting because they didn't bring any ID.
John and I went up to the City Hall chambers to work that issue, only
to be told by a police officer that guns were not allowed in City Hall
chambers!
WHAT?!?!?!! My reaction was to break into laughter and to tell John
that this would be one heluva law suit. We explained 15.2-915 to the
officer.
The officer, to his credit, realized that perhaps he had best check
this out. He told the other officers to just wait a minute and not
turn away any armed citizens.
Upon checking with the City Attorney, the officer returned in a couple
of minutes and sincerely apologized for his error and he said we were
more than welcome to enter the chambers.
Dennis O'Connor was also involved and approached Sheriff Watson on the
issue and filed this report:
"Apparently, no one had ever carried firearms to a Portsmouth city
council meeting before, because the security and police seemed not to
know how to handle it, and at one point a city officer was attempting
to deny us entrance. This was resolved by the city attorney, but
thankfully, Portsmouth Sheriff Watson was also on site and was very
aggressive about ensuring no one's rights were infringed. He was a
shining example of a professional law officer who was well versed in
both the law and the constitution, even making making numerours pro-
second amendment statements throughout.
He stated that as an elected constitutional officer, he would not
allow anyone's right to bear arms to be violated. Sheriff Watson
related to me that when someone initially approached him, exitedly
exclaiming that people were coming in who had guns, he simply replied
'so do I.'
Sheriff Watson make a point of giving me his personal cell phone
number, saying if any of our group were excluded or harassed in any
manner for carry of firearms to call him immediately and would
intervene and correct the problem."
Thank you, Sheriff!
We had no further issues with the police or the Sheriff's deputies and
we thank them for their professional handing of the event.
Once inside 3 of us spoke, asking the Mayor to resign from MAIG.
The Mayor did not comment, nor did anyone from City Council, but I'm
sure Council, and perhaps the Mayor, didn't realize until last night
the implications of the Mayor being a part of MAIG.
As far as Portsmouth's illegal gun ban on their lakes and surrounding
properties, Ken Richards got this email from the City today after
contacting them about that ordinance:
--
Mr. Richards,
Thank you for bringing this concern to the members of the Portsmouth
City Council's attention.
It is the intention of the City Council to consider repealing the
referenced ordinance at it's November 24th Meeting.
If you have any additional questions, please do not hesitate to
contact the Portsmouth City Council.
Thank you, Thank you for bringing this concern to the members of the
Portsmouth City Council's attention.
It is the intention of the City Council to consider repealing the
referenced ordinance at it's November 24th Meeting.
If you have any additional questions, please do not hesitate to
contact the Portsmouth City Council.
Thank you,
Debra White
City Clerk
VCDL mini-update
Yata hey
1. Yesterday's Portsmouth protest had to first overcome gun ban in
City Hall
*****************************************************************
Yesterday 24 VCDL members showed up at the Portsmouth City Hall to
support VCDL urging the Mayor to drop his membership in the
disgraceful Mayors Against Illegal Guns (MAIG) - a front for generic
gun control run by New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg.
The first problem we had was a requirement that you sign in and show
photo ID. Board member John Fenter is working to get that fixed.
Under the Freedom of Information Act they cannot turn someone away
from a public meeting because they didn't bring any ID.
John and I went up to the City Hall chambers to work that issue, only
to be told by a police officer that guns were not allowed in City Hall
chambers!
WHAT?!?!?!! My reaction was to break into laughter and to tell John
that this would be one heluva law suit. We explained 15.2-915 to the
officer.
The officer, to his credit, realized that perhaps he had best check
this out. He told the other officers to just wait a minute and not
turn away any armed citizens.
Upon checking with the City Attorney, the officer returned in a couple
of minutes and sincerely apologized for his error and he said we were
more than welcome to enter the chambers.
Dennis O'Connor was also involved and approached Sheriff Watson on the
issue and filed this report:
"Apparently, no one had ever carried firearms to a Portsmouth city
council meeting before, because the security and police seemed not to
know how to handle it, and at one point a city officer was attempting
to deny us entrance. This was resolved by the city attorney, but
thankfully, Portsmouth Sheriff Watson was also on site and was very
aggressive about ensuring no one's rights were infringed. He was a
shining example of a professional law officer who was well versed in
both the law and the constitution, even making making numerours pro-
second amendment statements throughout.
He stated that as an elected constitutional officer, he would not
allow anyone's right to bear arms to be violated. Sheriff Watson
related to me that when someone initially approached him, exitedly
exclaiming that people were coming in who had guns, he simply replied
'so do I.'
Sheriff Watson make a point of giving me his personal cell phone
number, saying if any of our group were excluded or harassed in any
manner for carry of firearms to call him immediately and would
intervene and correct the problem."
Thank you, Sheriff!
We had no further issues with the police or the Sheriff's deputies and
we thank them for their professional handing of the event.
Once inside 3 of us spoke, asking the Mayor to resign from MAIG.
The Mayor did not comment, nor did anyone from City Council, but I'm
sure Council, and perhaps the Mayor, didn't realize until last night
the implications of the Mayor being a part of MAIG.
As far as Portsmouth's illegal gun ban on their lakes and surrounding
properties, Ken Richards got this email from the City today after
contacting them about that ordinance:
--
Mr. Richards,
Thank you for bringing this concern to the members of the Portsmouth
City Council's attention.
It is the intention of the City Council to consider repealing the
referenced ordinance at it's November 24th Meeting.
If you have any additional questions, please do not hesitate to
contact the Portsmouth City Council.
Thank you, Thank you for bringing this concern to the members of the
Portsmouth City Council's attention.
It is the intention of the City Council to consider repealing the
referenced ordinance at it's November 24th Meeting.
If you have any additional questions, please do not hesitate to
contact the Portsmouth City Council.
Thank you,
Debra White
City Clerk
2a4all
Regular Member
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There were several antis who spoke in support of the mayor's membership in MAIG.
We gathered briefly outside after the meeting and I heard one of them say as she walked by our group "So safe, so safe". She didn't speak very loudly, so I expect most didn't hear her, or if anyone did, no one responded, until now. (Poetic license reserved!)
There's aleague ofpeopleso anti
That gun rights tie knots in their panties.
They tryemotion and charm to have us disarm
So we're as defensless as they be!
Webear armsas our right,
Todefend day or night,
Our selves andthose near, whomay alsobe dear;
Even those who oppose uswith spite!
There were several antis who spoke in support of the mayor's membership in MAIG.
We gathered briefly outside after the meeting and I heard one of them say as she walked by our group "So safe, so safe". She didn't speak very loudly, so I expect most didn't hear her, or if anyone did, no one responded, until now. (Poetic license reserved!)
There's aleague ofpeopleso anti
That gun rights tie knots in their panties.
They tryemotion and charm to have us disarm
So we're as defensless as they be!
Webear armsas our right,
Todefend day or night,
Our selves andthose near, whomay alsobe dear;
Even those who oppose uswith spite!
TFred
Regular Member
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2a4all wrote:
Hmm.
TFred
2a4all wrote:
"Try driving home without your seatbelt on... see how safe that makes you feel..."
Hmm.
TFred