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    I am pleased to announce that Mrs. Yowilhelm gave birth to our second daughter Friday morning! Both are doing well!

    Whats more disturbing, on our first visit to the new pediatritian, along with the usual history we were also asked if there were any firearms in our house, storage and makes, models ect. I asked him why he would ask such a strange question and his reply was that in the case that someone in the household becomes in his opinion unstable for example due to the holidays, he would need to know things like that. He went on to explain how owning a gun puts the family at risk and the accidental shooting stats and highly elevated (against households without guns I guess). I told him that we were lucky to live in a safe household thank god.

    I wonder what he would have thought if he knew I was CCing the whole time

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    yowilhelm wrote:
    I am pleased to announce that Mrs. Yowilhelm gave birth to our second daughter Friday morning! Both are doing well!

    Whats more disturbing, on our first visit to the new pediatritian, along with the usual history we were also asked if there were any firearms in our house, storage and makes, models ect. I asked him why he would ask such a strange question and his reply was that in the case that someone in the household becomes in his opinion unstable for example due to the holidays, he would need to know things like that. He went on to explain how owning a gun puts the family at risk and the accidental shooting stats and highly elevated (against households without guns I guess). I told him that we were lucky to live in a safe household thank god.

    I wonder what he would have thought if he knew I was CCing the whole time
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    You should have told him about the stats of how many people are killed by doctors!

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    Congrats on the baby girl! As far as the doctor goes, I would tell him to concentrate on medicine and I will handle the security of my household.

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    There are certainly some whacked out Physicians, but please don't paint with too broad a brush.

    I often go shooting and to gun shows with Physicians (including one of my brothers).

    Most of the ones I know are pro-gun.

    Mark (not a Physician)



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    Congrats!

    I concur with Venator - get a new doctor as not all are like that. It is none of their damn business

    I have CC'ed many times into the doc's office, he has gotten used to seeing it when he is checking my lungs with a stethoscope (asthma been bad this year). Even the nurses had no issues when I had to get X-Rays and took off my Holster/Firearm.
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    :celebrate :celebrate Congratulations :celebrate:celebrate

    I would get a new doctor. He should be focusing on your family's physical health, nothing more.

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    A friend in the med-field said doctors are required to ask about guns now.

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    Scooter wrote:
    A friend in the med-field said doctors are required to ask about guns now.
    By Law? Please cite the MCL or Federal Law that requires it.
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    Just 'cuz they ask doesn't mean you have to tell....


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    Interesting.. I wonder if it came from this:

    http://www.jpands.org/hacienda/edcor8.html


    or this:

    http://www.wnd.com/index.php?pageId=9051

    Worst of them all:

    When pediatricians become politicians
    Doctors rebuke, reject patients over gun control, other issues

    http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=17915



    Kalifornia, Illinoistan,New Yorkstan,New Jerseystananti-gun States of the US

    I'm having a discussion with my son to not discuss weather we have guns or not with anyone. Never thought I needed to do it but I guess it's necessary even if he wouldnt go to the doctors without us anyways.

    Mike



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    I think that someone that you dont know is asking you if you have guns, If it is a friend asking what you have that is different. I think if someone that I dont know asks if I have guns, That is a story untold. If someone is trying to tell you not to own guns, I would tell them to get FUed. I agree with getting a new doctor, They aren`t here to tell you what you can have in your house, They are to keeps people healthy. Guns are something they shouldn`t even metion.

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    Venator wrote:
    Congratulations.

    Get a new Dr.
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    I'll simply tell them to their face that it's not their business. As someone who also works in the medical field, I believe that question is extremely unethical, and have no problems telling them such.
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    PDinDetroit wrote:
    Scooter wrote:
    A friend in the med-field said doctors are required to ask about guns now.
    By Law? Please cite the MCL or Federal Law that requires it.
    And the law that states you have to answer.
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    They may be required by the AMA... an anti gun organization if there ever was one but I don't know of any laws that require it.
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    Apparently, the American Academy of Pediatrics started this campaign in 2000. :X

    AAP advises doctors to "incorporate questions about guns into their patient history taking" and to "urge parents who possess guns to remove them, especially handguns, from the home."

    http://www.claremont.org/projects/pa...48/default.asp



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    cobra wrote:
    Apparently, the American Academy of Pediatrics started this campaign in 2000. :X

    AAP advises doctors to "incorporate questions about guns into their patient history taking" and to "urge parents who possess guns to remove them, especially handguns, from the home."

    http://www.claremont.org/projects/pa...48/default.asp

    SNIP from artcile cited: "the AAP advises doctors to "incorporate questions about guns into their patient history taking" and to "urge parents who possess guns to remove them, especially handguns, from the home."

    Certainly not a law, it advises,doctors don’t have to ask.

    Those that do ask just advise them to treat the patientand thatyoudon’t care to hear of theirAnti affiliations,bill my insurance, and then fax my records once I find a new doctor.
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    When my last daughter was born they had given us a sort of check list, included in this list was to secure or get rid of all your firearm's.

    I am all for securing them but why would you even suggest getting rid of them?

    I told them they needed to remove it and the nurse said they had no control over it.. In the end i told them to "take a hike" in no uncertain term's and never went back

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    cobra wrote:
    Apparently, the American Academy of Pediatrics started this campaign in 2000. :X

    AAP advises doctors to "incorporate questions about guns into their patient history taking" and to "urge parents who possess guns to remove them, especially handguns, from the home."

    http://www.claremont.org/projects/pa...48/default.asp

    And if we wind upgetting stuck with "Obama-Care," I'm sure that it wouldn't be long before the "risk" associated with a gun in the home will translate into the Obama-Care recipient's rate being adjusted (upward)to reflect the increased risk due to that particular "life-style choice."

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    A ECNALG wrote:
    And if we wind upgetting stuck with "Obama-Care," I'm sure that it wouldn't be long before the "risk" associated with a gun in the home will translate into the Obama-Care recipient's rate being adjusted (upward)to reflect the increased risk due to that particular "life-style choice."
    Yep...

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    no under obama care,they will know you have a gun in the home! and then COME AND GET THEM!!!

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    Obamacare for those over age 65....

    Any and all expenses for 1 office visit and subsequent treatment and drugs prescribed by Dr. Kervorkian will be covered in full.
    Gun control isn't about the gun at all.... for those who want gun control it is all about their own fragile egos, their own lack of self esteem, their own inner fears, and most importantly... their own desire to dominate others. And an openly carried gun is a slap in the face to all of those things.

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    It never ceases to amaze me how people pick firearms as their pet vendetta. Any responsible practioner will know that there were more pediatric deaths (deaths of persons under the age of 19) due to motor vehicle trauma last year than firearm deaths in the preceding DECADE. Which practioner have you spoken to recently who wants to outlaw the use of automobiles by children? Which practioner do you know that wants to prohibit the ownership of automobiles by families with children in the house? Either of these actions would save the lives of more children annually than totally eliminating children's exposure to firearms for the next 10 years! Sometimes I wonder if MCRGO should post a list of firearm-hostile practioners like they do with businesses. The AAP blew all of their credibility when they issued that professional standard a few years ago. How sad to think that a highly regarded professional academy could be reduced to such a level.

    One last comment. A previous poster pointed out that all practioners are not holophobes. Some enjoy the shooting sports and some even (gasp!) CC. My perception of people as a group is that nurses are way less holophobic. Currently I am helping a large group put together a CC class just for nurses.

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