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Portsmouth Gun Ban - eMail the City Council

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nakedshoplifter wrote:
Maybe y'all should politely remind them that regardless of WHERE you liveYOU have the ability to sue them to remove the illegal ban, and you MAY be awarded reasonable attorneys fees.
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Indeed. This might be my reply/response to future questions like this.
 
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With proper wording of any correspondence, we can play two roles here, and that is not a bad thing.

First, we can get an onerous, illegal law off the books. The city does not care one way or the other about this.

Second, we can warn the city that their illegal law is exposing them to potential liability to cover the legal expenses for both sides of a lawsuit which they will lose. The city will care greatly about this.

A carefully worded letter can politely tackle both positions and be a win-win for all involved.

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nakedshoplifter wrote:
Maybe y'all should politely remind them that regardless of WHERE you liveYOU have the ability to sue them to remove the illegal ban, and you MAY be awarded reasonable attorneys fees.
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I was thinking the same idea. Maybe include the code that states they may have to pay all fees related to the illegal code.
 
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Looks like Portsmouth got a lot of letters about this. Form letter that has some extra copy in it, but the result is the same. Maybe a visit on the 24th is in order?I received the below note back from them this morning:

Thank you for bringing this concern to the members of the Portsmouth City Council's attention.

It is the intention of the City Council to consider repealing the referenced ordinance at it's November 24th Meeting.

If you have any additional questions, please do not hesitate to contact the Portsmouth City Council.

Thank you, Thank you for bringing this concern to the members of the Portsmouth City Council's attention.

It is the intention of the City Council to consider repealing the referenced ordinance at it's November 24th Meeting.

If you have any additional questions, please do not hesitate to contact the Portsmouth City Council.

Thank you,
Debra White
City Clerk


Debra White
 
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nakedshoplifter wrote:
Maybe y'all should politely remind them that regardless of WHERE you liveYOU have the ability to sue them to remove the illegal ban, and you MAY be awarded reasonable attorneys fees.
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I wonder if that will teach them a lesson? See what the Gloucester County Board of Supervisors did:

Gloucester supervisors stick taxpayers with $343,000 legal bill

Four members of the Gloucester County Board of Supervisors voted early Wednesday morning to spend $343,000 in taxpayer funds to pay legal bills they incurred over the past two years.

The $343,000 included fees the supervisors rung up with lawyers who billed as much as $575 an hour to defend them against petitions seeking their removal from office, as well as indictments issued by a special grand jury in July 2008 accusing them of holding secret meetings following the 2007 election and other charges.

The supervisors also voted 4-3 to withdraw an appeal to the Virginia Supreme Court of $171,000 in fees a judge ordered the county to pay to cover the costs the four board members incurred to fight the petitions calling for their removal from office. Theberge, Rilee and Allen voted 3-0 on Oct. 20 to appeal the sanctions. The other four supervisors abstained from voting that night, saying they needed time to review a state attorney general's advisory opinion on whether voting to pay their own legal bills with taxpayer money broached state conflict of interest laws.

The meeting, which began at 7 p.m. Wednesday, lasted until 1 a.m. Thursday. It was reminiscent of the Jan. 2-3, 2008, Board of Supervisors meeting that spawned two years of political turmoil in Gloucester, with no end in sight.

Paying the fees works out to about $10 for every man, woman and child in Gloucester.
 
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Repeater wrote:
nakedshoplifter wrote:
Maybe y'all should politely remind them that regardless of WHERE you liveYOU have the ability to sue them to remove the illegal ban, and you MAY be awarded reasonable attorneys fees.
Click to expand...
I wonder if that will teach them a lesson? See what the Gloucester County Board of Supervisors did:

Gloucester supervisors stick taxpayers with $343,000 legal bill

Four members of the Gloucester County Board of Supervisors voted early Wednesday morning to spend $343,000 in taxpayer funds to pay legal bills they incurred over the past two years.

The $343,000 included fees the supervisors rung up with lawyers who billed as much as $575 an hour to defend them against petitions seeking their removal from office, as well as indictments issued by a special grand jury in July 2008 accusing them of holding secret meetings following the 2007 election and other charges.

The supervisors also voted 4-3 to withdraw an appeal to the Virginia Supreme Court of $171,000 in fees a judge ordered the county to pay to cover the costs the four board members incurred to fight the petitions calling for their removal from office. Theberge, Rilee and Allen voted 3-0 on Oct. 20 to appeal the sanctions. The other four supervisors abstained from voting that night, saying they needed time to review a state attorney general's advisory opinion on whether voting to pay their own legal bills with taxpayer money broached state conflict of interest laws.

The meeting, which began at 7 p.m. Wednesday, lasted until 1 a.m. Thursday. It was reminiscent of the Jan. 2-3, 2008, Board of Supervisors meeting that spawned two years of political turmoil in Gloucester, with no end in sight.

Paying the fees works out to about $10 for every man, woman and child in Gloucester.
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THAT HAS THE BE THE BIGGEST CROCK OF CHIT I'VE EVER HEARD!!! THAT'S LIKE THE FORMER PRESIDENT (AND HER HUSBAND, MR B.J. CLINTOON) CHARGING THE PEOPLE FORTHEIR LEGAL FEES FROM WHTEWATER AND EXTRA-MARITIAL DALLIANCES...

Wait a minute...They DID do that, didn't they?
Didn't the TAXPAYERS payTHEIR legal bills, too???

:banghead::cuss::banghead::cuss::banghead::cuss::banghead::cuss:
 
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Whenlocalities requestour addresses when pointing out illegal laws, perhaps we should as them for written immunity, since being a resident seems to imply some kind of extra-legal status.
 
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Everybody who lives in Portsmout or nearby should attend the city council meeting tonight and join in re the VCDL speak out against that cuity's myors collaboration with Myor Bloomberg
 
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