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So here is my question/ statement:

So what if the manual safety comes off?

It is still holstered, correct? It still has the trigger covered, correct? It still has the grip safety,correct?It still isn't going to fire itself, correct?
 
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JDriver1.8t wrote:
So here is my question/ statement:

So what if the manual safety comes off?

It is still holstered, correct? It still has the trigger covered, correct? It still has the grip safety,correct?It still isn't going to fire itself, correct?
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My point exactly! I've never heard of a case of a 1911 going off, all by itslef in a propper holster while being carried...at least not that I can recall. It has sufficient safety devices builtinto the design of the 1911 that make it nearly impossible to go bang; unless you intend to make it go bang, not withstanding shoddy gunsmithing.

I've played guitar for over 30 years and Les Paul was amaster of guitar design. I put my faith and trust in him. John Moses Browning was amaster of firearms design. I put my faith and trust in him.
 
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JDriver1.8t wrote:
So here is my question/ statement:

So what if the manual safety comes off?

It is still holstered, correct? It still has the trigger covered, correct? It still has the grip safety,correct?It still isn't going to fire itself, correct?
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I wanted to make fun of you because you drive a VW, and actually incorporate it into your name! Too bad you make sense. Say something stupid next time.
 
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N6ATF wrote:
peter nap wrote:
I was laughing at a little fellow at the last gunshow. He was selling some holster you stuff all the way down your pants and draw the holster and gun.
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http://www.thunderwearholsters.com/ ?
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Naw.. the holster WITH the gun is the pager pal.. Thinderwear, the holster stays put.
 
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Tommy Lee says....

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"Lose that nickel plated sissy pistol and get yourself a Glock" ! :)
 
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ProShooter wrote:
Tommy Lee says....

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"Lose that nickel plated sissy pistol and get yourself a Glock" ! :)
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He was lucky his gun didn't blow up. :p

j/k ;)
 
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C3 when at home
C1 when out and about

SD carry = Glock. Don't like messing with the safety in a SD situation. Point 'n Shoot is much easier when under high stress.

1911 carry when hunting or at the range. My wife is looking at getting an EMP for SD carry. She appreciates all of the safeties and not a big fan of external safety-less DAOs.

C3 at home because the "click-clack" makes BGs think twice. The "breaking" part of B&E ruins the element of surprise on the BG's part, giving me the time and tactical advantage.
 
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ed wrote:
nova wrote:
ProShooter wrote:
Tommy Lee says....
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"Lose that nickel plated sissy pistol and get yourself a Glock" !   :)
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He was lucky his gun didn't blow up. :p

j/k ;)
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or melt
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:lol: That's horrible. I love my disposable pistol. It doesn't get treated as nicely as others that my wife and I have, but it's great for SD carry.
 
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NoVA York wrote:
ed wrote:
nova wrote:
ProShooter wrote:
Tommy Lee says....
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"Lose that nickel plated sissy pistol and get yourself a Glock" ! :)
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He was lucky his gun didn't blow up. :p

j/k ;)
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or melt
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:lol: That's horrible. I love my disposable pistol. It doesn't get treated as nicely as others that my wife and I have, but it's great for SD carry.
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I'll admit that the melonite treated metal parts and polymer frame of the XD is nice for foul weather OC. Plus it looks tacticool...says tactical right on the side! :lol:
 
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nova wrote:
ProShooter wrote:
Tommy Lee says....

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"Lose that nickel plated sissy pistol and get yourself a Glock" !   :)
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He was lucky his gun didn't blow up. :p

j/k ;)
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Aaaahaha!

Too bad that's exactly what I thought the last time I watched that movie.

I think I bash Glocks too much. :p
 
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1911 condition 1 always - the way the Rt. Rev. John Moses Browning intended.

Very, very unusual to find the safety off - can't remember the last time - except when I snap it off myself as a preparatory movement when serious potential trouble is sensed, but drawing is not indicated. Its a condition orange thing. I can do it with left hand behind my elbow - never seen.

All of mine are considered drop proof - that and I really don't mind the safety being off. My 1911s have a lot more safeties than my double action revolvers.

Yata hey
 
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Agent19 wrote:
Didn't a Glock out perform your 1911 at the Culpepper shoot?
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Definitely did not. :D

Inanimate tool subject to input/output reactions as induced by the operator.

Did the Glock's master do a better job in this instance? I'd say so, but I think had you swapped guns, the 1911 would probably have prevailed. :D

PS - Would you stay home next time and let someone else win?

Yata hey
 
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Grapeshot wrote:
Agent19 wrote:
Didn't a Glock out perform your 1911 at the Culpepper shoot?
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Definitely did not. :D

Inanimate tool subject to input/output reactions as induced by the operator.

Did the Glock's master do a better job in this instance? I'd say so, but I think had you swapped guns, the 1911 would probably have prevailed. :D

PS - Would you stay home next time and let someone else win?

 Yata hey
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...And THAT's it in a nutshell! Go out and play with the big dogs or stay on the porch!!!
 
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Grapeshot wrote:
Inanimate tool subject to input/output reactions as induced by the operator.
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It appeared that all the FTF during that shoot came from those using 1911's, whether it was the shooter or his/her tool of choose is unknown to me.

If iirc, the top four shooters carried something other than a 1911.
Glock 20
Glock 23(?)
H&K USP45
Kahr P40(?)

Maybe these shooter took the money they saved on there firearm and invested it in ammo/practice.;)
With that being said I own more 1911's than any other firearm design.

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I've never noticed my manual safety clicking off on my 1911's and if it hadI wouldn't worry about it.
As long as your firearm is of good quality, operating properly and you keep the booger hookers off the bang switch there isn't anything to worry about.
 
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Agent19 wrote:
I've never noticed my manual safety clicking off on my 1911's and if it hadI wouldn't worry about it.
As long as your firearm is of good quality, operating properly and you keep the booger hookers off the bang switch there isn't anything to worry about.
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+1. If you're worried about your 1911 being off safety in your holster you, 1) are using the wrong holster, and 2) need to build confidence in your "trigger finger management[sup]TM[/sup]."

In fact, I have found the safety off on my EMP several times in several holsters including the one that came with it that has no retention device that occludes the safety. The first time I realized it had happened, I was worried. Then I thought about it. Grip safety+trigger covered by holster+you're going to disengage the safety anyway before putting your finger anywhere near the trigger, and I stopped worrying about it.

Do not touch the trigger until you are on target and have decided to shoot.
 
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