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"Cop Killer"Gun used in Fort Hood Shooting Officals Said

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I saw some "expert" being interviewed TV yesterday who stated that the "FN57 is an extremely powerful type of 9mm." I kid you not. It was like listening to an interview with Jim Carrey's butt except less intelligent. He should have closed the interview with, "Of course everything I said should be accepted with the understanding that I have no idea what I am talking about."
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IMO, it is in the contract of talking heads that they not have a clue what they are saying.

The FN 5.7x28 is no more dangerous of a 9mm than any other 9mm--it is that the ammunition for the 5.7x28 is interchangeable with the PS90 that terrifies so many about his gun..it is the same ammo--and that is why they are saying it is more dangerous and more powerful. The information I have read is that the 5.7x28 is comparable to the 9x19..nothing more or less.

Talking heads should hang a sign on their necks which should say :"I'm a talking head, I have no clue what I am saying."
 
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Does anyone know how many LEO's are killed by automobiles during regular traffic stops or other criminal actions utilizing automobiles? Is the number higher than the ones that are killed by "cop killer bullets" or any other type of bullet? If it is, do they ever talk about banning automobiles?
 
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Fran wrote:
Does anyone know how many LEO's are killed by automobiles during regular traffic stops or other criminal actions utilizing automobiles? Is the number higher than the ones that are killed by "cop killer bullets" or any other type of bullet? If it is, do they ever talk about banning automobiles?
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We don't want to ban all automobiles, only cop-killer cars.
 
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Tomahawk wrote:
Fran wrote:
Does anyone know how many LEO's are killed by automobiles during regular traffic stops or other criminal actions utilizing automobiles? Is the number higher than the ones that are killed by "cop killer bullets" or any other type of bullet? If it is, do they ever talk about banning automobiles?
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We don't want to ban all automobiles, only cop-killer cars.
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NOT YET!! I've seen some of those videos. Sometimes its a pick-up truck, and I ain't got mine, yet. :p
 
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Citizen wrote:
Tomahawk wrote:
Fran wrote:
Does anyone know how many LEO's are killed by automobiles during regular traffic stops or other criminal actions utilizing automobiles? Is the number higher than the ones that are killed by "cop killer bullets" or any other type of bullet? If it is, do they ever talk about banning automobiles?
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We don't want to ban all automobiles, only cop-killer cars.
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NOT YET!! I've seen some of those videos. Sometimes its a pick-up truck, and I ain't got mine, yet. :p
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No American needs a pickup truck. Only police and military should have such big vehicles.
 
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Tomahawk wrote:
SNIP No American needs a pickup truck. Only police and military should have such big vehicles.
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You closet socialist greenie, you.

Baseball, hot dogs, apple pie, and Chevrolet....TRUCKS!!

:):p
 
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There's no practical reason for someone to own a vehicle that holds more than that of an El Camino. From this point forward, that is the largest car that any American should own.
 
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There's no practical reason for someone to own a vehicle that holds more than that of an El Camino. From this point forward, that is the largest car that any American should own.
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Oh,Tomahawk will never agree to that. Those things got terrible gas mileage by today's standards. :):p
 
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Perhaps the reporting is getting better, they got at least one nugget of truth in:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/time/08599193644400

..."It also was a tactic straight out of recent lessons learned from the 2007 Virginia Tech shooting, when first responders waited for additional backup before engaging the shooter. "She walked up and engaged him," said Lt. Gen. Cone told Associated Press. As a member of the base Special Reaction Team, Munley had learned that "if you act aggressively to take out a shooter, you will have less fatalities," Cone said."
Gee, what a novel idea. Too bad they actively prevent that for an overwhelming percentage of the population on post.
 
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essayons wrote:
Oh mah Gawd... If they said clip one more time I think my head might have exploded.

what in the heck is a 'clip extension'?
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I think my ex-girlfriend used those in her hair.
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i hear you there.!

Clip.....straight lined article that holes vertical ammuniton

Clip, used to hold paper together.

Clip, a short length of video recording.

Magazine, a metal or plastic rectangular holding device with a spring and follower that holds multiple rounds of amunition, used in semi-automatic weapons.

Magazine....."O", "New york times", "Penthouse".

I did not know Five-Sevens used "clips" lol
 
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Was just listening to NPR this morning on the drive and they were discussing whether the killings were premeditated. When listing the acts occurring prior to the shooting that may indicate premeditation (giving away his possessions, etc.), the reporter pointed out (paraphrasing): "... There was also the gun he purchased, a very high powered gun capable of penetrating bullet proof vests."
 
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VA Lawyer wrote:
Was just listening to NPR this morning on the drive and they were discussing whether the killings were premeditated. When listing the acts occurring prior to the shooting that may indicate premeditation (giving away his possessions, etc.), the reporter pointed out (paraphrasing): "... There was also the gun he purchased, a very high powered gun capable of penetrating bullet proof vests."
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OH HELL YES IT WAS PRE-MEDITATED! the POS was a islamic supporter who spoke before the attack about suicide bombings and islamic extermist ideology. The 2 members of a government agency already admited on ABC they knew he was attempting to contact members of al quida. the cowardly Bastard wanted to be a marter. he had no interest in the Military or the safety of our country.........guy got into psychology because its a good freakin cover..........i would like to make sure that man doesnt see a trial. he deserves to die now not later.
 
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Once again it's all about the flavor of the weapon... not the intent of the user.

However... the utterance: "the "FN5.7 is an extremely powerful type of 9mm." would... (had I been watching that interview) made my head spinas I spewedpea-soup lookin' goo around the room.5.7mm is not 9mm...and a different round altogether as anyone on this forum would know even if they'd never heard of the FN pistol.

More pearls of wisdon: "a very high powered gun capable of penetrating bullet proof vests." Guns don't penetrate anything. The 'power' does not lie in the gun... but the ammunition. Such ammunition (SS190LF)is not available (legally) to the general public. It is the bullet which does the 'work'.

They pay these 'experts'large coins to 'inform' the viewer/listener. These 'experts' are either deliberately disingenous propagandists or ignorant mouth breathers. Either way...what comes out is adisinformative load ofcrap.

Guns are inert mechanical devices operated by human beings with deliberate intent. Any gun pointed at a LEO is a potentional 'cop killer'. Any gun pointed at anyone is a potential (place label here) killer, be it the intent of the human operator to operate the device for that purpose. The purpose may be for good or evil.

There must be some sort of endemic myopic ninnyism among so-called 'journalists'. 'Saw that in the 'open carry' stories... now thisrevelation that FN 5.7's can be 'legally purchased'... in gun stores. Well... Duhhh!
 
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Sonora Rebel wrote:
Once again it's all about the flavor of the weapon... not the intent of the user.

However... the utterance: "the "FN5.7 is an extremely powerful type of 9mm." would... (had I been watching that interview) made my head spinas I spewedpea-soup lookin' goo around the room.5.7mm is not 9mm...and a different round altogether as anyone on this forum would know even if they'd never heard of the FN pistol.

More pearls of wisdon: "a very high powered gun capable of penetrating bullet proof vests." Guns don't penetrate anything. The 'power' does not lie in the gun... but the ammunition. Such ammunition (SS190LF)is not available (legally) to the general public. It is the bullet which does the 'work'.

They pay these 'experts'large coins to 'inform' the viewer/listener. These 'experts' are either deliberately disingenous propagandists or ignorant mouth breathers. Either way...what comes out is adisinformative load ofcrap.

Guns are inert mechanical devices operated by human beings with deliberate intent. Any gun pointed at a LEO is a potentional 'cop killer'. Any gun pointed at anyone is a potential (place label here) killer, be it the intent of the human operator to operate the device for that purpose. The purpose may be for good or evil.

There must be some sort of endemic myopic ninnyism among so-called 'journalists'. 'Saw that in the 'open carry' stories... now thisrevelation that FN 5.7's can be 'legally purchased'... in gun stores. Well... Duhhh!
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your absolutely right. i mean how ignorant are they the 5.7MM! says right in its NAME that it is NOT a 9MM.......9mm looks like a beefy .380 where the 5.7mm looks like a tiny 5.56.........i swear the so called "experts" look at the cover of "handgunner" magazine and make an assumption then report it as news.............what tools they are
 
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I am declaring that this is madness.

Its not good enough to sit here and agree with each other, I suggest we draft an open letter to the media, and make efforts to circulate and present it to the media and article authors.

Anyone want to collaborate?
 
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I'm in.



'Ever notice how these so-called 'experts' don't seem to carry guns... or come from areas where the 2A is not prohibited? They 'know' everything and understand nothing.

Some people have been educated beyond reasonable usefulness.
 
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Our local sheriff gave an interview and said he was using 'Police Pistols' is
why he could fire so many rounds.
So I guess the local police carry 'cop killers' themselves.:banghead:

If he didn't have the extended mags, what sort of placement did he use for
his magazines on his belt / harness? That was my first thought, how did he go unnoticed carrying 2 pistols and a 8-10 mags that he had readily available
for reloading. I could stash that much on me unnoticed, but they wouldn't be
readily available in a firefight.

If only Maryland had let him to have a gun then he could have shot up baltimore
instead and no one would notice one more mass shooting. :shock:


How many years did it take Texas to fix there dumb carry law after the
restaurant shooting? Lets hope BHO doesn't waffle as long this time.
 
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