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    http://republicans.waysandmeans.hous...umentID=153583


    Yup this is the idiocy we have making the calls in washington..... I dont know how true this is but it just ticks me off to even think they could do this



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    If true... :what:

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    ya like i said before i dont know how true this is but if it is........ holly crap are we in for one hell of a fight

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    :what:

    Is it time for the next revolution yet?
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    Metalhead47 wrote:
    :what:

    Is it time for the next revolution yet?
    It IS time for the next VOTING revolution. Every incumbant needs to be replaced. Doesn't matter what party they represent. Vote em all out. Send D.C. a message and remind them of who their master is.

    The only (peaceful) way to win is to let them know that we hold the keys to their future employment.

    With regard to whether that story is true? I can't find anything to counter the House Ways and Means Chairman, but I can say that he'd have the Dems up in arms screaming about misinformation if he was spreading a lie. I don't hear a counter story...

    This is just one small cog in the wheel of the changemachine that gotelected a year ago.

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    this is on topic how?

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    Commodore76 wrote:
    Metalhead47 wrote:
    :what:

    Is it time for the next revolution yet?
    It IS time for the next VOTING revolution. Every incumbant needs to be replaced. Doesn't matter what party they represent. Vote em all out. Send D.C. a message and remind them of who their master is.

    The only (peaceful) way to win is to let them know that we hold the keys to their future employment.

    With regard to whether that story is true? I can't find anything to counter the House Ways and Means Chairman, but I can say that he'd have the Dems up in arms screaming about misinformation if he was spreading a lie. I don't hear a counter story...

    This is just one small cog in the wheel of the changemachine that gotelected a year ago.
    You can't use a broken system to fix the broken system. There is only one solution left us; the same solution that Jefferson, Madison, Washington, Adams, Henry, Franklin and the rest of them settled on.

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    sv_libertarian wrote:
    this is on topic how?
    I asked myself the very same question when I saw the title of the thread. Then I saw the poster. And it all became clear........while something to be concerned with, this is not the venue for such discussion.

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    whats that suppose to mean dave????? look through all the posts on here and damn near 1/3 of them have nothing to do with Open Carry.........Yet i dont see anyone complaining about it until i post something.......

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    When you are in jail though you will get FREE medical care to go along with your room, board, internet, and cable TV. Might not be a bad deal...




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    911Boss wrote:
    When you are in jail though you will get FREE medical care to go along with your room, board, internet, and cable TV. Might not be a bad deal...


    Oh, don't forget ... you get to meet Bubba too

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    Trigger Dr wrote:
    911Boss wrote:
    When you are in jail though you will get FREE medical care to go along with your room, board, internet, and cable TV. Might not be a bad deal...


    Oh, don't forget ... you get to meet Bubba too
    So the choice is get screwed by Bubba or screwed by the gov't? I'll take option C.
    It is very wise to not take a watermelon lightly.

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    This came in an email:


    FORGET BEING DEMOCRAT or REPUBLICAN
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    > Maybe this is why the White House has been discounting FOX
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    > Sounds like this could be History in the making - - I feel someone is going to go down - - either Obama or Fox News
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    > It may be that Fox has been holding this information back due to the sensitivity of it and out of courtesy. But, Obama has taken on Fox and it appears they are ready to spill the ugly beans of truth about the background of this individual who has had an extremely radical past.
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    > I'm not going to miss it and I hope you won't either. This should prove interesting!!
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    > Subject: This Sunday at 8:00 pm central 9:00 pm eastern
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    > This Sunday Fox news, is going to air a very important documentary about Barack Obama, Sunday night at 9 P M Eastern.
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    > The report will go back to Obama's earlier days, showing even then his close ties to radical Marxist professors, friends, spiritual advisers, etc. It will also reveal details about his ties to Rev. Wright for +20 years i.e. how he was participating with this man, and not for the reasons he states!
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    > The report has uncovered more of Obama's radical past and we will see things that no one in the media is willing to put out there. It will be a segment to remember.
    > Mark your calendar and pass this on to everyone you know: Sunday night, 8 P M . CT ; 9 P M ET. Democrat or Republican, this report will open your eyes to how YOUR country is being sold down the road to Totalitarian Socialism. If you care about the direction of our country, pass this notice on to everyone you know...

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    Universal healthcare is not something to start a violent revolution over. It doesn't technically violate the terms of the Constitution or the bill of rights.

    Our elected officials' votes count as representing the people, and the only thing that requires a popular vote is an amendment to the Constitution, which they do not need to make to get national healthcare.

    On the other hand, I feel dirty just watching the ads they have on TV in support of it - they're just dripping with PR spin and you can almost hear all the facts they AREN'T mentioning.

    What can we do about it? NOTHING. We voted and we weren't enough, because the vast majority of Americans are swayed by whatever ads they see on TV. Don't bother talking about protests - it's been done before, with absolutely no effect other than a little media coverage. People look shocked about all the crazy people in the streets, maybe talk about it at the watercooler, and then everything goes back to normal the next day.

    We're eventually going to have to face the fact that our country is going to hell in a handbasket and, if we respect the Constitution, we have to let it happen. Eventually there will come a point where they DO violate the Constitution, and then it will be time to act physically. Until then, we can only tap our ballot choices on touch screens and watch another election go to the inept, self-serving, or socialist with good PR people.

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    sv_libertarian wrote:
    this is on topic how?
    Why do you want to start a big fuss? If you don't want to discuss the topic, don't. Everyone was getting along 'till you sounded off. Are you the hall monitor? If you are, then I apologize.:?

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    Squeak wrote:
    sv_libertarian wrote:
    this is on topic how?
    Why do you want to start a big fuss? If you don't want to discuss the topic, don't. Everyone was getting along 'till you sounded off. Are you the hall monitor? If you are, then I apologize.:?
    This is a self-moderated forum. We are equals here. Anyone can call anyone else on a policy violation.
    I'll make you an offer: I will argue and fight for all of your rights, if you will do the same for me. That is the only way freedom can work. We have to respect all rights, all the time--and strive to win the rights of the other guy as much as for ourselves.

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    Nothing in the Constitution can be construed as empowering the government to take over health care. "Technically" or otherwise.

    Whether by popular vote or representative vote, if the basic legislation is outside the realm of the powers granted by the Constitution, it is invalid no matter how wide the margin of the vote or how popular it is (or isn't in this case).

    What portion of the Constitution do you think applies giving the federal government any jurisdiction or power to regulate health care? Hint, don't even try "interstate commerce" as a big part of the problem with health care is that there is NO competition across state lines due to current regulations, hence there is no "interstate commerce" when it comes to health care.

    People need to wake up and realize that the power is vested in the people first, the states second, and then to the feds. Somewhere along the way things have been turned upside down and everyone has somehow become subordinate to the feds.

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    Universal healthcare is not something to start a violent revolution over. It doesn't technically violate the terms of the Constitution or the bill of rights.
    Could you be a little more specific, please?

    Where did The People delegate authority to the government to rule over our health care system?

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    Take a look at what Mass. does.

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    The info at the link in the OP is correct. If you choose not to have healthcare you must pay a 2.5% tax based on your adjusted gross income that is above your exemption amount. If you do not pay the tax then the IRS will more than likely come to you for the money. If you make arrangements and pay it you are fine, but if you basically tell the IRS to piss off then you will more than likely find yourself in court.
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    911Boss wrote:
    Nothing in the Constitution can be construed as empowering the government to take over health care. "Technically" or otherwise.

    Whether by popular vote or representative vote, if the basic legislation is outside the realm of the powers granted by the Constitution, it is invalid no matter how wide the margin of the vote or how popular it is (or isn't in this case).

    What portion of the Constitution do you think applies giving the federal government any jurisdiction or power to regulate health care? Hint, don't even try "interstate commerce" as a big part of the problem with health care is that there is NO competition across state lines due to current regulations, hence there is no "interstate commerce" when it comes to health care.

    People need to wake up and realize that the power is vested in the people first, the states second, and then to the feds. Somewhere along the way things have been turned upside down and everyone has somehow become subordinate to the feds.
    The government can't technically regulate healthcare. They're technically not regulating it. What they'll likely do is say "This is how we do things federally. If you want continued federal funds, you'll do it this way too.", and create some sort of "agency" that offers private healthcare. Then they'll slap on an extra federal tax, and let those with insurance take a 2.5% tax cut. The end effect is the same, but the way it's done is legal in the letter of the law, because most of it bypasses the law entirely.

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    antispam540 wrote:
    The government can't technically regulate healthcare. They're technically not regulating it. What they'll likely do is say "This is how we do things federally. If you want continued federal funds, you'll do it this way too.", and create some sort of "agency" that offers private healthcare. Then they'll slap on an extra federal tax, and let those with insurance take a 2.5% tax cut. The end effect is the same, but the way it's done is legal in the letter of the law, because most of it bypasses the law entirely.
    So "Power perceived is power achieved"? Sorry, I don't buy that.

    Lots of things that were thought to be "legal" were eventually determined to be unconstitutional. I certainly agree it will have to run it's course, but I am not quite as willing to roll over and accept such things as others seem to be.

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    Takin cell mate requests:

    Criteria:

    Must NEVER hit on me.

    Must be of good hygene.

    Must share toilet without complaint.

    Must have same taste in pin up girls.

    Must like cable TV.

    Intelligent conversationalist.

    Pledge to make "shanks" and be prepared to use them in defense of one another.

    Allow an United States flag and Pledge of Allegience said every morning.

    Pledge to start riots everyday at noon. (Refer to "Animal House" food fight scene)

    Well, at the very least, it's further down the rabbit hole we go! Do we still have to drink the kool aid in Hell? Pretty sure my seat is reserved already.

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    Commodore76 wrote:
    Takin cell mate requests:

    Criteria:

    Must NEVER hit on me.

    Must be of good hygene.

    Must share toilet without complaint.

    Must have same taste in pin up girls.

    Must like cable TV.

    Intelligent conversationalist.

    Pledge to make "shanks" and be prepared to use them in defense of one another.

    Allow an United States flag and Pledge of Allegience said every morning.

    Pledge to start riots everyday at noon. (Refer to "Animal House" food fight scene)

    Well, at the very least, it's further down the rabbit hole we go! Do we still have to drink the kool aid in Hell? Pretty sure my seat is reserved already.

    God help us,

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    Pardon my logical disconnect, but you wanna pay homage to a government that put you in jail for not buying health insurance?

    Why not just comply in the first place?

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    Phssthpok wrote:
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    Pardon my logical disconnect, but you wanna pay homage to a government that put you in jail for not buying health insurance?

    Why not just comply in the first place?
    He probably believes, like me, that the current administration no longer has any legitimate claim to that flag, and that same flag is still too much a symbol of true freedom to be nullified by the misuse of such charlatans.

    America is greater than Obama and his ilk. Whatever his birth certificate really says, because of his actions he is no more an American than Hitler was a German.
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