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    I'm at a loss for words.

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    I'm about to be at a loss for the meal I ate a few hours ago...

    I hope this garbage gets stopped in the Senate.

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    smash29 wrote:
    I'm about to be at a loss for the meal I ate a few hours ago...

    I hope this garbage gets stopped in the Senate.
    +1
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    smash29 wrote:
    I'm about to be at a loss for the meal I ate a few hours ago...

    I hope this garbage gets stopped in the Senate.
    I hope so too, but the only way to make sure it to contact your senators. I will be making phone calls tomorrow and Monday.
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    protias wrote:
    I hope so too, but the only way to make sure it to contact your senators. I will be making phone calls tomorrow and Monday.
    Don't hurt to try, it's still our right and we must attempt, but then our senatorshavn't listened to American's anymore than Congress.
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    Good to see they were able to cut through the crap and psychotic attacks and get this one through. Hopefully it slides through the senate without issue.

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    Mike_Hawke wrote:
    Good to see they were able to cut through the crap and psychotic attacks and get this one through. Hopefully it slides through the senate without issue.
    Now I surly willcontact my Senator, requesting he push a bill giving Puerto Rico back to the Spanish. Obama can do one of his famous apologies for the United States for bringingDemocracy, you knowFREEDOMto Puerto Rico.
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    Both of my senators are so far up BHO's butt they're unreachable....

    But I absolutely DARE these mofo's to try to arrest me for not carrying their designated version of insurance!

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    Mike_Hawke wrote:
    Good to see they were able to cut through the crap and psychotic attacks and get this one through. Hopefully it slides through the senate without issue.
    And who knows, maybe the conference committee will slip in tripled rates for gunowners or maybe even bar gunowners from HAVING insurance.
    --- Gun control: The theory that 110lb. women have the "right" to fistfight with 210lb. rapists.

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    NavyLT wrote:
    jbone wrote:
    Don't hurt to try, it's still our right and we must attempt, but then our senatorshavn't listened to American's anymore than Congress.
    Not to be too nit picky here, but our senators ARE Congress :-). Well, at least part of Congress.
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    Deanimator wrote:
    Mike_Hawke wrote:
    Good to see they were able to cut through the crap and psychotic attacks and get this one through. Hopefully it slides through the senate without issue.
    And who knows, maybe the conference committee will slip in tripled rates for gunowners or maybe even bar gunowners from HAVING insurance.
    I don't have a problem with them banning me from being forced into their health care system. It prevents them from coming after me for money or imprisoning me after I refuse it.

    I don't think the supreme court would uphold a ruling against a gun-owning citizen for not having health care and being prosecuted by the .gov, if the .gov bans them from getting a federal plan due to exercising their 2A rights.

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    Mike_Hawke wrote:
    Good to see they were able to cut through the crap and psychotic attacks and get this one through. Hopefully it slides through the senate without issue.
    Many people understand that the so called "stimulus bill" wasn't about helping the economy but was intended to rob the country of wealth and increase government power and control.

    Many people understand that the so called "cap and trade" bill wasn't about global warming or green energy but was intended to rob the country of wealth and increase government power and control.

    Many people understand that the so call "national health care bill" isn't about providing quality health care for every citizen but is intended to rob the country of wealth and increase government power and control.

    Those who think the government has the best interests and welfare of the citizens first and foremost in it's mind when enacting bills..... simply don't understand.
    Gun control isn't about the gun at all.... for those who want gun control it is all about their own fragile egos, their own lack of self esteem, their own inner fears, and most importantly... their own desire to dominate others. And an openly carried gun is a slap in the face to all of those things.

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    only by two votes and one being a socialist Republican. I think it is time we tar and feather these traitors. Why has no one sued over the constructional of the health bills.
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    zack991 wrote:
    only by two votes and one being a socialist Republican. I think it is time we tar and feather these traitors. Why has no one sued over the constructional of the health bills.
    Now, there is an idea.
    I'll make you an offer: I will argue and fight for all of your rights, if you will do the same for me. That is the only way freedom can work. We have to respect all rights, all the time--and strive to win the rights of the other guy as much as for ourselves.

    If I am equal to another, how can I legitimately govern him without his express individual consent?

    There is no human being on earth I hate so much I would actually vote to inflict government upon him.

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    Bikenut wrote:
    Mike_Hawke wrote:
    Good to see they were able to cut through the crap and psychotic attacks and get this one through. Hopefully it slides through the senate without issue.
    Many people understand that the so called "stimulus bill" wasn't about helping the economy but was intended to rob the country of wealth and increase government power and control.

    Many people understand that the so called "cap and trade" bill wasn't about global warming or green energy but was intended to rob the country of wealth and increase government power and control.

    Many people understand that the so call "national health care bill" isn't about providing quality health care for every citizen but is intended to rob the country of wealth and increase government power and control.

    Those who think the government has the best interests and welfare of the citizens first and foremost in it's mind when enacting bills..... simply don't understand.
    I'm going to edit this for correctness, hope you don't mind...


    Many people understand that the so called "stimulus bill" wasn't about helping the economy but was intended to create a false sense of recovery and help game the economic numbers. The idea was to simulate a recovery in order to get consumers and business spending again, inhopes of starting an actual recovery.The intention was good; the idea was beyond idiotic.

    Bottom line: no mass conspiracy here - better keep looking.



    Many people understand that the so called "cap and trade" bill wasn't about global warming, but was about incentivizing a move away from oil dependancy - something good that would not naturally happen without government intervention.



    Many people understand that the so call "national health care bill" IS about providing adequate health care for all Americans... but none of those people frequent this board.


    Now we're in touch with reality.

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    There is absolutely no bill for healthcare in the Senate right now. Let's work to keep it this way. Also ifI am reading the news on Govtrack.us correctly the only thing that passed last night was an amendment to the bill, not the bill itself. I need to keep digging into this to find the rest of the hidden parts I guess.
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    Mike_Hawke wrote:
    SNIP Now we're in touch with reality.
    Well, yes. If one accepts as reality the explanations given by the government.

    If one digs a little deeper, keeping property rights and basic economic principles in mind, he finds the explanations don't add up.
    I'll make you an offer: I will argue and fight for all of your rights, if you will do the same for me. That is the only way freedom can work. We have to respect all rights, all the time--and strive to win the rights of the other guy as much as for ourselves.

    If I am equal to another, how can I legitimately govern him without his express individual consent?

    There is no human being on earth I hate so much I would actually vote to inflict government upon him.

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    Does anyone have a sneaking suspicion that Mr. Hawke is in reality our old friend Styles??

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    Alexcabbie wrote:
    Does anyone have a sneaking suspicion that Mr. Hawke is in reality our old friend Styles??
    LOL. Not until you just now mentioned it.You have a point, there.
    I'll make you an offer: I will argue and fight for all of your rights, if you will do the same for me. That is the only way freedom can work. We have to respect all rights, all the time--and strive to win the rights of the other guy as much as for ourselves.

    If I am equal to another, how can I legitimately govern him without his express individual consent?

    There is no human being on earth I hate so much I would actually vote to inflict government upon him.

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    Checking his posts he is fond of using the old "strawwmanning" argument so beloved of our ol' pal and has gotten increasingly abrasive. So far no accusings of tinfoil hats but......

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