DON`T TREAD ON ME
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DearElected Officials,
Last JuneI had a run in with the Nevada Highway Patrol, I spent an hour on the side of the road and my Rights were violated repeatedly. Since 6/15/2009 I have become an awake citizen, in addition to being a single father and small business owner. Of all the things that I was potentially accused of, let me stress that not one charge was brought against me, the biggest problem during my stop, was the fact that I did not have my firearm registration with me while carrying my firearm. There is absolutely no requirement to carry your "blue card " period. Metro had this pointed out to them in 2007 and reluctantly changed there website to acknowledge the fact. however thistreatment of the citizens has not stopped, and from the situations described in the chat rooms, this threatening behavior is not only being supported, it is being trained.
I brought this problem up at theSheriff's and Chiefs meeting on concealed carry, when the words registration were uttered, I was cut off and my statement discounted as not relevant. To be frankI take my firearm responsibility's very serious, and to carry the kind of information that is documented on he blue cardon my person, is ridicules.I believe that Clark County needs to take aCloser look at thisgun registration as it is being used against the citizens, and not for them.
What do we think we are accomplishing, by keeping track of law abiding citizens? this registration scheme does nothing to prevent crime, gun registration does not coincide with the majority of laws in the United States, Or for that matter the rest of our state. our Constitution calls for all to be treated equal, yet if I were in another city in this state, this behavior would have never come about. How is that equal treatment? When the Legislature returns to session I will be looking for a bill to rid our County of these Gestapo tactics.
Thank you for your time, Sincerely,Now the response,
Dear Mr. xxxxxxx,
My name is Sergeant Chuck Callaway, and I work with Metro’s Office of Intergovernmental Services. I was asked to reply to your concerns regarding law enforcement and gun registration. You are correct that the law does not require you to carry your “blue card” with you. The “blue card” can be helpful to an officer in the field to expedite verification that a firearm is registered. Clark County is currently the only county in the State where registration of handguns is required. Clark County also has the majority of the population and crime. The Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Department believes that handgun registration is a valuable tool which helps us recover stolen guns, return found and recovered guns to their rightful owners, keep guns out of the hands of convicted persons, and solve crimes.
As you know, the topic of handgun registration and firearms in general is a hot topic of debate that could be discussed for hours on many levels. In regards to your unfortunate encounter with Highway Patrol, if you feel you were wrongly detained, I would suggest contacting their Internal Affairs Division to file a complaint.
From the content of your E-mail, it sounds like you are a very engaged citizen that understands the process to change the things in our community that you feel are wrong. I would encourage you to lobby your elected officials in regards to these matters. If there are any specific issues related to Metro that I can assist you with please don’t hesitate to contact me.
Best of luck,
Chuck
Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Department
Office of Intergovernmental Services
Lt. Tom Roberts, Director
(702) 828-5538 Phone
(702) 828-1565 Fax
My return letter,
Dear Chuck Calloway, and Elected Officials,
I did attempt to Contact you and have received no response as of yet. I will however take your advice on contacting my Elected Officials, and havecopied them in this letter.
Yoursuggestion to contact Internal affairs seems positive on the surface, however I have been assured by the Internal affairs Dept. that threatening a citizen with jail,is is not against the law, and 100% acceptable for an officer to lie, if they feel it helps the investigation,
Chuck brought up some instances where he believes a "blue card" might be helpful, however other cities such as Phoenix, Salt Lake City, do not have any worse results in recovering guns etc. than we do Yet more importantly, not one citizen in those citiesis ever threatened to go to jail, because thedo not provideGun registration,
If chuck did want to continue correspondence in this Manner I would like to see his responses posted to the citizens who have endured this police persecution, only to be released. Such as the 29 year old Mother with her six year old daughter at the Town Square mall. even though this incident happened 4 moths ago the daughter is still drawing pictures of"BAD" policeman and having nightmares. Or the out of town business man threatened in the same manner, and had his firearm confiscated because he did not have his "blue card" I ask you what are the benefits, that out weigh this reaction? and why does Metro allow,encourage, and trainthis behavior?
To be fair I called Chucks office and let them know that I wanted to give them a chance to respondand justifytheir horrific actions. before Iasked people write in and expose them and their tactics, however they apparently do not see this as a problem. as there has been no response.
This registration is complied with voluntarily by themajority of the citizens in Clark County, myself included. I never questioned the registration until I realized that my own compliance with the law was being used against me, and many others. That issue is one that Chuck did not address,WhileI personally believe that registration is cost prohibitive both in rights and monetarily, I believe it is time for our county to look into the perceived benefits that Chuck outlined and justify the expense, financially and personally that is being paid on a daily basis.
Sincerely, xxxxx xxxxxxx
DearElected Officials,
Last JuneI had a run in with the Nevada Highway Patrol, I spent an hour on the side of the road and my Rights were violated repeatedly. Since 6/15/2009 I have become an awake citizen, in addition to being a single father and small business owner. Of all the things that I was potentially accused of, let me stress that not one charge was brought against me, the biggest problem during my stop, was the fact that I did not have my firearm registration with me while carrying my firearm. There is absolutely no requirement to carry your "blue card " period. Metro had this pointed out to them in 2007 and reluctantly changed there website to acknowledge the fact. however thistreatment of the citizens has not stopped, and from the situations described in the chat rooms, this threatening behavior is not only being supported, it is being trained.
I brought this problem up at theSheriff's and Chiefs meeting on concealed carry, when the words registration were uttered, I was cut off and my statement discounted as not relevant. To be frankI take my firearm responsibility's very serious, and to carry the kind of information that is documented on he blue cardon my person, is ridicules.I believe that Clark County needs to take aCloser look at thisgun registration as it is being used against the citizens, and not for them.
What do we think we are accomplishing, by keeping track of law abiding citizens? this registration scheme does nothing to prevent crime, gun registration does not coincide with the majority of laws in the United States, Or for that matter the rest of our state. our Constitution calls for all to be treated equal, yet if I were in another city in this state, this behavior would have never come about. How is that equal treatment? When the Legislature returns to session I will be looking for a bill to rid our County of these Gestapo tactics.
Thank you for your time, Sincerely,
Dear Mr. xxxxxxx,
My name is Sergeant Chuck Callaway, and I work with Metro’s Office of Intergovernmental Services. I was asked to reply to your concerns regarding law enforcement and gun registration. You are correct that the law does not require you to carry your “blue card” with you. The “blue card” can be helpful to an officer in the field to expedite verification that a firearm is registered. Clark County is currently the only county in the State where registration of handguns is required. Clark County also has the majority of the population and crime. The Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Department believes that handgun registration is a valuable tool which helps us recover stolen guns, return found and recovered guns to their rightful owners, keep guns out of the hands of convicted persons, and solve crimes.
As you know, the topic of handgun registration and firearms in general is a hot topic of debate that could be discussed for hours on many levels. In regards to your unfortunate encounter with Highway Patrol, if you feel you were wrongly detained, I would suggest contacting their Internal Affairs Division to file a complaint.
From the content of your E-mail, it sounds like you are a very engaged citizen that understands the process to change the things in our community that you feel are wrong. I would encourage you to lobby your elected officials in regards to these matters. If there are any specific issues related to Metro that I can assist you with please don’t hesitate to contact me.
Best of luck,
Chuck
Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Department
Office of Intergovernmental Services
Lt. Tom Roberts, Director
(702) 828-5538 Phone
(702) 828-1565 Fax
My return letter,
Dear Chuck Calloway, and Elected Officials,
I did attempt to Contact you and have received no response as of yet. I will however take your advice on contacting my Elected Officials, and havecopied them in this letter.
Yoursuggestion to contact Internal affairs seems positive on the surface, however I have been assured by the Internal affairs Dept. that threatening a citizen with jail,is is not against the law, and 100% acceptable for an officer to lie, if they feel it helps the investigation,
Chuck brought up some instances where he believes a "blue card" might be helpful, however other cities such as Phoenix, Salt Lake City, do not have any worse results in recovering guns etc. than we do Yet more importantly, not one citizen in those citiesis ever threatened to go to jail, because thedo not provideGun registration,
If chuck did want to continue correspondence in this Manner I would like to see his responses posted to the citizens who have endured this police persecution, only to be released. Such as the 29 year old Mother with her six year old daughter at the Town Square mall. even though this incident happened 4 moths ago the daughter is still drawing pictures of"BAD" policeman and having nightmares. Or the out of town business man threatened in the same manner, and had his firearm confiscated because he did not have his "blue card" I ask you what are the benefits, that out weigh this reaction? and why does Metro allow,encourage, and trainthis behavior?
To be fair I called Chucks office and let them know that I wanted to give them a chance to respondand justifytheir horrific actions. before Iasked people write in and expose them and their tactics, however they apparently do not see this as a problem. as there has been no response.
This registration is complied with voluntarily by themajority of the citizens in Clark County, myself included. I never questioned the registration until I realized that my own compliance with the law was being used against me, and many others. That issue is one that Chuck did not address,WhileI personally believe that registration is cost prohibitive both in rights and monetarily, I believe it is time for our county to look into the perceived benefits that Chuck outlined and justify the expense, financially and personally that is being paid on a daily basis.
Sincerely, xxxxx xxxxxxx