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Thread: Nelson County LEO extremely misinformed or a downright liar, you decide.

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    I had a Nelson county LEO freak out last night during a traffic stop when he discovered that I had an empty holster. He started going on and on about how I COULDN"T open carry a firearm and how I COULDN"T carry it in my glovebox. He stuck to his story but his demeanor changed dramatically when I started to spout KRS numbers and laws and how OC was a constitutionally protected right in the state of Kentucky. Yet, he goes on to say, "I've been doing this for 20 something years, blah blah blah, and you can't do that". Funny thing was that after he ran the gun to see if it was stolen he gave it back to me along with my speeding citation. If it was so illegal then why didn't you arrest me Mr LEO?

    Know those laws and rights, although it all comes out in the wash, it may save you from spending a night in jail.

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    That's why those of us with faulty memories go to the link below, download the info available, print it, then keep it with us.

    http://opencarry.mywowbb.com/forum25/15867.html

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    Well the remarks aren't about his "heros", but rather one Nelson county LEO in particular. Another LEO showed up towards the end and I was walking around with it in my holster and he never said a word about it.

    What really bothers me is that he had already run my drivers license and knew I didn't have a record, but still was a bit less than calm when he found out I had a firearm, even when it wasn't even attached to my body. Personally I thought him putting me in the back of his cruiser and then going over to my passenger door, opening it, my glove box and taking my firearm was a bit over the top. When he requested where I had the firearm, I told him, but I never said he could go get it and he never asked. It brings questions to mind,

    Am I required by law to surrender my firearm to a LEO during a simple traffic stop?

    Did he have the authority to not ask if he could get into my glove box to get the firearm?



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    MEM, you honestly don't get it, do you? I don't understand either, it's such a simple concept to grasp.

    There is a night and day difference between the OP's comments and the comments you've made before.

    The OP is relaying a story about ONE incident involving a LEO. He didn't make silly over gereralized statements such as "All LEOS are bad"

    Seriously, you obviously have a computer. Please, GOOGLE gereralized statement and educate yourself. There's a difference and you seem to be one of the only few who don't comprehend.

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    Unfettered, you have the right to convey your verbal disagreement to hand over your weapon and to not give your consent. I WOULD NOT try to prevent any officer from doing so.

    Personally speaking, I would not object to an officer placing the gun in a place where he knows where it is and it's out of reach of me. I would absolutely object to the numbers being run and I think that if you were to voice your disapproval and the officer still ran the numbers, I think you'd have an excellent case against the LEO.

    If he is to take anything from the car or look around he either needs a warrant or RAS.

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    RAS being?

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    Reasonable Articulable Suspicion. Example: Someone IDs you committing a firearm offense and calls you in and the police respond a question you.

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    RAS used to be known as probable cause. The officer, to legally stop and frisk you, must be able to explain(articulate) what crime you were committing, or what crime you were about to commit.

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    I used to live on Stringer lane and shot off dynamite. Same at Cox's Creek. Deputieshardly (once only) Bothered me. Late 60s and 70s.

    The one that stopped you was 'ignert'.

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    Funny thing was that after he ran the gun to see if it was stolen ...
    And what was his Probable Cause for assuming your handgun was stolen?

    What he did was conduct an illegal search, thus violating your civil rights as guaranteed by the U.S. Constitution's 4th Amendment.

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    Well all of your thoughts echo my own so I've decided to consult an attorney further on the issue, thanks for your input.

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    Good, glad to hear you are pursuing the issue. He was entirely out of line and probably just spouting off his own personal agenda regardless of the actual KRS law.

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