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    Will someone post the link to the muni or state law the shows the requirement for signage?I have looked for it but have not been able to locate it.



    Also if its a private business and they don't have the proper signage but they have there own sign is it legal to carry until the point where they tell you, you can't have it in their establishment?

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    I carry everywhere in Anchorage except Muni buildings or the law forbids. I don't carry open though and if even if a private business has a sign, I don't care as criminals won't either. At worst on private property I can get kicked out, since I am not brandishing, only violating a rule they have (which is not a law). The only time the security guards at the diamond mall know that I have a fiveseven is if there is a lot of much worse stuff going on. - http://www.professionaladventurer.com

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    "Alaska Statute 11.61.220 allows anyone 21 or older, who may legally carry a firearm to also carry it concealed without having to obtain a special permit. The possession of a firearm at courthouses, school yards, bars and domestic violence shelters will continue to be prohibited. Alaskans may obtain a concealed carry permit if they want reciprocity with other states."

    Here is the link to the Alaska DPS website (law and rules) http://www.dps.state.ak.us/statewide...dhandguns.aspx

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    professionaladventurer wrote:
    I carry everywhere in Anchorage except Muni buildings
    Is there a reason why you don't carry in the Anchorage Municipal building? Are there any restricted places in the building or do you just feel uncomfortable with open carry at the location?
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    Municipal Buildings are Legal in Alaska for Carry, and due to State Preemption, there is nothing stopping you from doing so except the fact that you do not want to.

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    Well seeing as he is in Anchorage, I thought perhaps there was something wrong with the Anchorage Muni. building which didn't permit it. I know one can carry at the location here in Homer, i.e. city meetings, etc.
    Gays are prominent members of firearm rights, we do more via the courts, don't like it? Leave.
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    1* wrote:
    Will someone post the link to the muni or state law the shows the requirement for signage?I have looked for it but have not been able to locate it.



    Also if its a private business and they don't have the proper signage but they have there own sign is it legal to carry until the point where they tell you, you can't have it in their establishment?
    There is no Alaska state law for signage requirements (although IANAL), and one could argue that state preemption would forbid muni laws for such as well (although it would be a tough argument to make, in all honesty). However, private property owners are free to implement their own rules as they see fit, and if that includes a no weapons rule then you're SOL.

    If you carry into a private business and there's no reasonable expectation that you would know that they forbid weapons, then you can face no legal repercussions. HOWEVER, once you are asked to leave, if you do not comply you could face a criminal trespassing charge. I do not know what effect a "No Weapons" (or similar) sign would have, however it would be safest to assume the worst case, i.e. that the sign itself constitutes you being asked to leave, and you are immediately trespassing the moment you cross their threshold.

    Also be aware that the law is different in regards to private residences. With a private business, state law assumes that you are permitted to carry unless and until you are asked to leave; with a residence, however, the law dictates that you must seek permission (from an adult) before you enter with your firearm, whether you are OCing or CCing. I know this isn't directly relevant to your question, but it is something you should be aware of as it does change your legal liabilities significantly from the above.

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