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    http://biggovernment.com/2009/11/10/...-love-of-guns/

    Chicago Mayor Daley Blames Fort Hood On America’s Love Of Guns!
    by Andrew Marcus

    On Monday, Chicago Mayor Daley blamed the Ft. Hood Jihad Massacre on America’s love of guns!


    “Unfortunately, America loves Guns. We love guns to a point where that uh we see devastation on a daily basis. You don’t blame a group.”


    The Mayor is using a straw-man argument that conveniently provides him with an opportunity to politicize the terrorist attack as part and parcel with America’s love of guns.

    Mayor Daley, and other politicians, like to blame gun violence on the guns themselves because that is so much easier than admitting any inconvenient (politically incorrect) truths which might be revealed if they were to place blame where it belongs.

    Kids murdering each other in the inner city? That’s because of guns, not the War On Drugs which turns poor children into black market drug distributing gang members.



    Islamists murdering people while shouting Allah Akbar? That’s because of guns, not the Jihad being perpetrated globally against all so called “infidels”.

    They blame guns because guns don’t vote.

    Taking Mayor Daley at face value for a moment, is he seriously arguing for increased gun control on a military base? If there had been more guns around, this ticking Jihad bomb could have been put down a lot faster than he was.


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    With no pogrom backlash after 9/11, no pogrom backlash after Bali, no pogrom backlash after Madrid, no pogrom backlash after London, no pogrom backlash after Mumbai, no backlash after countless other Jihad attacks, why would there be any reason to believe the reaction would be any different in this case? As we have written before, the West has already passed this particular civility test.

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    This is from a moron, errrr,mayor who's city has insanelystrict gun control laws yet had 509 homocides in 2008.

    http://archives.chicagotribune.com/2...hicago_02jan02

    Yup, we should really listen to him...
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    I'm getting rather fed up with "civility". I'm thinking it is getting about time to start kickin' butt and takin' names. :X

    Who the hell asked Daley for his opinion, anyway? Who the heck does he think he is, somebody important?

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    Task Force 16 wrote:
    I'm getting rather fed up with "civility". I'm thinking it is getting about time to start kickin' butt and takin' names. :X

    Who the hell asked Daley for his opinion, anyway? Who the heck does he think he is, somebody important?
    Daley is importatnt. Just ask his fellow criminals who he's worked so hard to ensure a safe working environment for.
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    Well he's dead wrong. You do blame a group. And the group to blame are the people who brought us to this point in our history. The very same people who have been screaming for some time that we must do something to end the violence are the very same people who created the conditions in which this has all taken root and grown over the past 60 years.

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    Daley is a myopic moron... elected by myopic morons, supported by myopic morons and adhered to by myopic morons.

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    In Chicago you're more in danger from the Chicago Police Department than you are from a law abiding citizen with a firearm... especially if you're a 110lb. barmaid.
    --- Gun control: The theory that 110lb. women have the "right" to fistfight with 210lb. rapists.

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    Deanimator wrote:
    In Chicago you're more in danger from the Chicago Police Department than you are from a law abiding citizen with a firearm... especially if you're a 110lb. barmaid.
    Sounds like there is a story behind your comment.

    And yes Daly is a moron.

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    papabear wrote:
    Deanimator wrote:
    In Chicago you're more in danger from the Chicago Police Department than you are from a law abiding citizen with a firearm... especially if you're a 110lb. barmaid.
    Sounds like there is a story behind your comment.

    And yes Daly is a moron.
    You are apparently the ONLY person on earth who hasn't seen this video!

    http://www.myfoxchicago.com/dpp/wild..._video_beating

    http://www.wgnradio.com/news/top/wgn...,1853586.story
    --- Gun control: The theory that 110lb. women have the "right" to fistfight with 210lb. rapists.

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    Huck wrote:
    Task Force 16 wrote:
    I'm getting rather fed up with "civility". I'm thinking it is getting about time to start kickin' butt and takin' names. :X

    Who the hell asked Daley for his opinion, anyway? Who the heck does he think he is, somebody important?
    Daley is importatnt. Just ask his fellow criminals who he's worked so hard to ensure a safe working environment for.
    You mean Obama?
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    Task Force 16 wrote:
    I'm getting rather fed up with "civility". I'm thinking it is getting about time to start kickin' butt and takin' names. :X

    Who the hell asked Daley for his opinion, anyway? Who the heck does he think he is, somebody important?
    I've asked that question since I was a kid... Exactly what is so civil about standing idly by and allowing carnage? What is so 'reasonable' about being a self-declared 'good man' who does nothing?

    Good men who do nothing are not good men. It reminds me of Monty Python:

    "This calls for immediate discussion!" I've watched this stupidity my whole life. The 'civilized' who enable carnage....

    Fukcing stupid, backwards, degeneracy called normal these days.... Pinning badges on themselves, crying about 'for the children' while lifting not one finger for fear of being 'not normal' or 'extreme.'

    How dare someone take actual action to defend themselves and promote a civilized society by being armed themselves to prevent such things.

    Kudos to the Cops who stopped it..... But what about the victims who could have done it sooner, and with far fewer graves to fill?
    "The fourth man's dark, accusing song had scratched our comfort hard and long..."
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    Notso wrote:
    http://biggovernment.com/2009/11/10/...-love-of-guns/

    Chicago Mayor Daley Blames Fort Hood On America’s Love Of Guns!
    by Andrew Marcus

    On Monday, Chicago Mayor Daley blamed the Ft. Hood Jihad Massacre on America’s love of guns!

    “Unfortunately, America loves Guns. We love guns to a point where that uh we see devastation on a daily basis. You don’t blame a group.”


    The Mayor is using a straw-man argument that conveniently provides him with an opportunity to politicize the terrorist attack as part and parcel with America’s love of guns.

    Mayor Daley, and other politicians, like to blame gun violence on the guns themselves because that is so much easier than admitting any inconvenient (politically incorrect) truths which might be revealed if they were to place blame where it belongs.

    Kids murdering each other in the inner city? That’s because of guns, not the War On Drugs which turns poor children into black market drug distributing gang members.



    Islamists murdering people while shouting Allah Akbar? That’s because of guns, not the Jihad being perpetrated globally against all so called “infidels”.

    They blame guns because guns don’t vote.

    Taking Mayor Daley at face value for a moment, is he seriously arguing for increased gun control on a military base? If there had been more guns around, this ticking Jihad bomb could have been put down a lot faster than he was.


    Click image to view video


    With no pogrom backlash after 9/11, no pogrom backlash after Bali, no pogrom backlash after Madrid, no pogrom backlash after London, no pogrom backlash after Mumbai, no backlash after countless other Jihad attacks, why would there be any reason to believe the reaction would be any different in this case? As we have written before, the West has already passed this particular civility test.
    Daly is not smart enough to understand simple concepts.



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    Daley even looks like a thug.

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    How can people keep voting for him? From his commentary in the last several years, he should be removed from office on grounds of being a mental incompetent. He doesn't make any sense at all.
    "The fourth man's dark, accusing song had scratched our comfort hard and long..."
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    Tyranny with Manners is still Tyranny.

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    ixtow wrote:
    How can people keep voting for him? From his commentary in the last several years, he should be removed from office on grounds of being a mental incompetent. He doesn't make any sense at all.
    A lot of them don't KNOW they voted for him... being dead and all.
    --- Gun control: The theory that 110lb. women have the "right" to fistfight with 210lb. rapists.

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    I bet his city paid for security detail are a bunch of gun lovers. It's ok for him and his alderman buddies to love guns though, after all they benefit from having them.

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    trailblazer2003 wrote:
    I bet his city paid for security detail are a bunch of gun lovers. It's ok for him and his alderman buddies to love guns though, after all they benefit from having them.
    They passed a one time amnesty so that Alderman Richard Mell (Blagojevic's father in law) could re-register the guns he forgot to re-register.
    --- Gun control: The theory that 110lb. women have the "right" to fistfight with 210lb. rapists.

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    "You don't blame a Group."

    Seriously, WTF is wrong with this guy's head?

    Really? When there is a Group of People, or a Group of One Person, Or a Person who acts on behalf of a Group, who chooses to commit a horrible crime, you don't blame them? Their murderous actions are not their fault?

    What are Prisons for, might I ask? Aren't the people locked up in there a Group of something? Why are you blaming them, Mr. Daly? By your own advice, they aren't to be blamed, much less, punished...

    How can you claim to not blame a Group and then blame a Group; gun owners. How can a Group with opposes this be the focus of it? How can the Individual and/or group who commited this act NOT be to blame for their own actions, but those who vehemently oppose it and are forbidden from even being present in the place by the likes of Daly: those forbidden people somehow are the guilty party?

    How can people have these thoughts and still remember to breathe? Fukcing Stupid!
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    Tyranny with Manners is still Tyranny.

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    I've owned or been around guns my whole life, I've never had one tell me to pick it up and use it to perform a violent act.

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    Deanimator wrote:
    papabear wrote:
    Deanimator wrote:
    In Chicago you're more in danger from the Chicago Police Department than you are from a law abiding citizen with a firearm... especially if you're a 110lb. barmaid.
    Sounds like there is a story behind your comment.

    And yes Daly is a moron.
    You are apparently the ONLY person on earth who hasn't seen this video!

    http://www.myfoxchicago.com/dpp/wild..._video_beating

    http://www.wgnradio.com/news/top/wgn...,1853586.story

    I never seen that either....what a disgrace....who wants to bet...there were some court cases were.....his detainee's were "resisting" arrest. Lame judge, you know if that was the average Joe, we'd be doing time.

    Is it coincidence that Chicago's murder rate is almost 4 times Seattle's? But don't worry Mayor Nickles ( born in Chicago) was trying to fix that for us. Make sure Seattlelites are just as defenseless as folks from Chicago.



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    miked wrote:
    I've owned or been around guns my whole life, I've never had one tell me to pick it up and use it to perform a violent act.
    Mine tell me to go hunting for deer, or just how they like to be cleaned. Some like it rougher than others, just ask them.

    Was that my inner monologue again?

    There are so many reasons why Daley shouldn't be listened to. He's just one little fish who wants to be a bigger one. Doesn't anyone in Chicago know about the "Daley Dynasty"? No wonder the Illini are in such a crabby mood when they spend all their time in the summer up in WI.
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    sudden valley gunner wrote:
    Deanimator wrote:
    papabear wrote:
    Deanimator wrote:
    In Chicago you're more in danger from the Chicago Police Department than you are from a law abiding citizen with a firearm... especially if you're a 110lb. barmaid.
    Sounds like there is a story behind your comment.

    And yes Daly is a moron.
    You are apparently the ONLY person on earth who hasn't seen this video!

    http://www.myfoxchicago.com/dpp/wild..._video_beating

    http://www.wgnradio.com/news/top/wgn...,1853586.story

    I never seen that either....what a disgrace....who wants to bet...there were some court cases were.....his detainee's were "resisting" arrest. Lame judge, you know if that was the average Joe, we'd be doing time.

    Is it coincidence that Chicago's murder rate is almost 4 times Seattle's? But don't worry Mayor Nickles ( born in Chicago) was trying to fix that for us. Make sure Seattlelites are just as defenseless as folks from Chicago.
    FWIW, the Chicago Police Board met this week to determine whether he's going to be fired (after getting a felony conviction). Reports say that they could make a decision "as early as" next month. That about says it all...
    --- Gun control: The theory that 110lb. women have the "right" to fistfight with 210lb. rapists.

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