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    Right to bear arms
    Alamogordo group wants to inform people about Second Amendment, state open carry laws
    Alamogordo Daily News
    By Duane Barbati, Staff Writer
    Posted:11/13/2009 12:00:00 AM MST



    Members of the Alamogordo Second Amendment Task Force, from left,... (J.R. Oppenheim/Daily News)


    The newly formed Alamogordo Second Amendment Task Force is looking to educate people about firearms and their Constitutional freedoms.
    Member Dan Woodruff said there is a need nationwide for the public to be educated about firearms.
    Woodruff said when people surf the Internet, watch the news on television or read the newspapers, they see reports about illegal guns.
    "What constitutes an illegal gun," he said. "The group wants to educate people on what's an illegal gun, and what is not an illegal gun. We want to educate people on what their freedoms or rights are."
    The ASATF is planning a get-together at 6 p.m. Saturday at the Veterans of Foreign Wars bingo hall, 700 S. U.S. Highway 70, for anyone who wishes to join the group.
    The Second Amendment to the Constitution states, "A well-regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed."
    The mission statement of the ASATF is "to provide the citizens of New Mexico with knowledge of the true meaning of the Second Amendment. Armed with this knowledge, they will be able to conduct themselves as responsible citizens of the republic, in the manner envisioned by the founders of this great nation."
    It is legal to carry a firearm openly in New Mexico by anyone over the age of 19. A person can openly carry in most places, except in a bank, bar, jail or prison, a school and other places.
    ASATF president Justin Cummings said he believes most people don't know it's legal to open carry a holstered firearm.
    "In the future, we'd like to train people on gun safety and education," Cummings said. "Educate people on gun safety in the home. There are a lot of accidents. Accidents happen because of the lack of education."
    He said a lot of people see someone carrying a holstered gun and automatically think the person is a criminal.
    "People are scared of what they don't understand," Cummings said. "I think the media, in general, is uninformed about guns. They put a negative spin on guns."
    Woodruff said a recent example is the Fort Hood incident with the Army psychiatrist Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan, who is accused of killing 13 soldiers last week.
    Hasan was charged Thursday with 13 counts of premeditated murder as he lay in a hospital bed.
    "It was circulating around that the gun this guy used was labeled a cop killer," he said. "They put a bad label on a certain tool. The gun to the general populous becomes a horrible thing."
    Woodruff said the Fort Hood incident was horrible because a person used a handgun to kill his fellow soldiers.
    "Most guns have numbers associated with them," he said. "I haven't seen a gun actually labeled a cop killer. It's the individual behind the tool that gives it the bad name."
    Cummings said it's the person shooting a gun that makes a gun bad.
    "A gun is only as bad as the person using it," he said. "There is no such thing as a good gun or a bad gun. It's all about who operates it."
    Cummings said the group is not affiliated in any way, shape or form with a political group.
    "Politics are chucked at the door," he said. "We don't care if a person is Republican, Democrat or independent. We welcome anyone who wants to join and help teach other people."
    Cummings said the group wants people to open carry responsibly.
    "A person can come to our events and not own a gun," he said. "A person doesn't have to carry a firearm to be educated. If a person wants to come out to get a feel for or be educated about firearms, we wouldn't be a group unless we had someone to educate."
    All ASATF meetings are open to the public. For information about the group, its meetings and contact information, go online at http://www.alamogordo2atf.org.

    Contact Duane Barbati at dbarbati@alamogordonews.com.

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    can't carry openly in a bank???

    forgive me, I thought I could...and I have...

    the law please...

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    jhow1nm2 wrote:
    can't carry openly in a bank???

    forgive me, I thought I could...and I have...

    the law please...
    The summary at http://handgunlaw.us/states/newmexico.pdf does not mention banks. It was last updated 8/31/09.

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    TFred wrote:
    jhow1nm2 wrote:
    can't carry openly in a bank???

    forgive me, I thought I could...and I have...

    the law please...
    The summary at http://handgunlaw.us/states/newmexico.pdf does not mention banks. It was last updated 8/31/09.

    TFred
    can one of you NM guys email the reporter then?

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    Sure...will do.

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    Done!

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    We never actually said that... Those were the words of the reporter... Sorry for the confusion.

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    That there needs to be a group (now)to inform New Mexicans of the Right to Bear Arms is scary enough. Where are these people coming from? NM's been open carry since the State wascreated (and prior).

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    We decided we needed it in Alamo after a few separate incidents in our town. We had the OC BBQ and then we've had a meeting or 2 and recently the A2ATF open carried at our annual christmas parade with float and about 12 people walking behind it.

    How do you eat an elephant?

    Btw, I was at the interview and they used the only picture I wasn't in and attributed my quotes to Justin and Dan. I wonder why that is..

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    Sonora Rebel wrote:
    That there needs to be a group (now)to inform New Mexicans of the Right to Bear Arms is scary enough. Where are these people coming from? NM's been open carry since the State wascreated (and prior).
    You'd be surprised at the number of people in this state that don't realize they can openly carry. Most have no idea, besides, we have a lot of Califonicators moving here all the time.

    I get all sorts of stares and sometimes comments about it. We are always educating people on this, they just don't know.

    About the banks, it's not against the law to carry in them, but is against some bank policies. Just don't bank at those! How can you trust a bank that don't trust you?

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    Think Progress. Right!

    http://thinkprogress.org/2010/01/03/guns-tea-party/

    Gun Rights and Tea Party Activists Encourage People To Bring Guns To New Mexico Protest

    Nearly 350 right-wing protestors crowded a New Mexico town’s busiest intersection yesterday to protest President Obama’s supposed anti-gun agenda and the “government takeover of our health care system.” While the event mostly looked like any other recent right-wing rally — complete with signs reading “replace the communists in DC” and “the sky is falling! A black man is president!” — what set this protest apart was that there “were plenty of handguns and rifles displayed.”

    The local Tea Party and a group called the Second Amendment Task Force (2ATF, a reference to the ATF, which enforces gun laws) encouraged people to bring guns to the event in Alamogordo, NM, in order to “put a positive light on gun ownership,” said 2ATF’s founder Dan Woodruff. While the two protests were technically separate, they were planned together for the same day in adjacent locations. Otero Tea Party Patriots coordinator Don Omey said he was “proud” of the gun-toters. “That’s what we need to turn some minds around,” Omey said. Under New Mexico law, it’s legal for anyone over the age of 19 to open-carry a holstered firearm in most public places.

    And while there was no violence during the event, one protestor wearing a Tea Party shirt said his loaded gun was a “very open threat” to anyone who might “try to take over the country completely as a socialist communist [state].” Watch it:

    Apart from the obvious danger from introducing fire arms to a crowded, emotionally-charged environment, as Walt Rubel, the editor of the Las Cruces Sun-Times wrote in today’s paper, displaying guns at a rally is counter-productive to the protestors’ goals. “Nothing will ‘put a positive light on gun ownership’ quite like inviting every yahoo with a weapon in southern New Mexico to gather at the busiest intersection in Alamogordo and wave their firearms at the passing traffic,” he wrote.

    This was not the first right-wing protest to which people have brought guns or displayed offensive signs, but the hate-filled atmosphere at Tea Party rallies doesn’t seem to bother former House Speaker Newt Gingrich. In a guest-column in the Des Moines Register on Friday he wrote, “every American who is not corrupted by the secular-socialist left should be a member of the Tea Party movement.”

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    buster81 wrote:
    Apart from the obvious danger from introducing fire arms to a crowded, emotionally-charged environment, as Walt Rubel, the editor of the Las Cruces Sun-Times wrote in today’s paper, displaying guns at a rally is counter-productive to the protestors’ goals. “Nothing will ‘put a positive light on gun ownership’ quite like inviting every yahoo with a weapon in southern New Mexico to gather at the busiest intersection in Alamogordo and wave their firearms at the passing traffic,” he wrote.
    Yep, all mentally incompetent gun owners were brandishing their guns at passing traffic. Apparently he has a good libel lawyer, because he's just accused people of committing crimes en masse. Sue that bastard into unemployment.

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    Hey I wanted to say thanks for starting this Task force my family reunion is in Cloudcroft and I love visiting Alamagordo the best indoor AFB gym in the world is there.
    BTW try to put forth a bunch of non carry on base stuff and get the word out there especially to the hire ups of the base,maybe one day the DOD will get their stuff high speed and there can be carry on all mil bases and a requirement that all mil personell carry at all times no matter their MOS (job) even their depandants.
    It starts with you guys and keep up the good work.

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    I just read that part of right wing gun owners im not even a Republican lols silly political parties.

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