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CCW question
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conservative85
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Kitkin wrote:
Look I put it to you this way You obviously are new here, We (O.C'ers/Gun right advocates) don't refer to our fire arms as weapons, I could kill you with a pencil, in a court that would be a weapon, but until I use it in that manner it is a pencil. Until I use my fire arm in a violent manner, or violate the M.C.L. it is not a weapon.
If your gonna stick around we ask that you put the city you are from in the location.
Next Welcome to the site.
Kitkin wrote:
You keep sheep'in the law and not the Constitution!, or a Dictionary for that matter.
Look I put it to you this way You obviously are new here, We (O.C'ers/Gun right advocates) don't refer to our fire arms as weapons, I could kill you with a pencil, in a court that would be a weapon, but until I use it in that manner it is a pencil. Until I use my fire arm in a violent manner, or violate the M.C.L. it is not a weapon.
If your gonna stick around we ask that you put the city you are from in the location.
Next Welcome to the site.
conservative85
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750.227 Concealed weapons; carrying; penalty.
Sec. 227.
(2) A person shall not carry a pistol concealed on or about his or her person, or, whether concealed or otherwise, in a vehicle operated or occupied by the person, except in his or her dwelling house, place of business, or on other land possessed by the person, without a license to carry the pistol as provided by law and if licensed, shall not carry the pistol in a place or manner inconsistent with any restrictions upon such license.
(3) A person who violates this section is guilty of a felony, punishable by imprisonment for not more than 5 years, or by a
Where is it called a CCW permit?
750.227 is concealed weapons. period! Without a license to carry a pistol, you are considered carrying a concealed weapon.
As I said in the previous post It is a pistol until you violate the CCW law, or use the pistol in a violent, or malicious manner.
750.227 Concealed weapons; carrying; penalty.
Sec. 227.
(2) A person shall not carry a pistol concealed on or about his or her person, or, whether concealed or otherwise, in a vehicle operated or occupied by the person, except in his or her dwelling house, place of business, or on other land possessed by the person, without a license to carry the pistol as provided by law and if licensed, shall not carry the pistol in a place or manner inconsistent with any restrictions upon such license.
(3) A person who violates this section is guilty of a felony, punishable by imprisonment for not more than 5 years, or by a
Where is it called a CCW permit?
750.227 is concealed weapons. period! Without a license to carry a pistol, you are considered carrying a concealed weapon.
As I said in the previous post It is a pistol until you violate the CCW law, or use the pistol in a violent, or malicious manner.
T Vance
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Some states refer to the licenses as a CCW. In Michigan it is called a CPL. Do you have one? Look at it and read it.
Some states refer to the licenses as a CCW. In Michigan it is called a CPL. Do you have one? Look at it and read it.
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conservative85 wrote:
nah not going to stick around
conservative85 wrote:
I only jumped in here because the OP was given some wrong information. I haven't posted anything that was untrue or wrong. The quotes I have made are from the Mi. firearms laws. Sorry if some don't like it.
nah not going to stick around
conservative85
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Notice he won't answer my question in my last post. He looked, then jumped with out thinking about what he read.
I posted the very same law he posted earlier.
Tro..!
Notice he won't answer my question in my last post. He looked, then jumped with out thinking about what he read.
I posted the very same law he posted earlier.
Tro..!
SpringerXDacp
New member
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"...because the OP was given some wrong information." :banghead:
"...because the OP was given some wrong information." :banghead:
conservative85
Regular Member
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Just forget it he is probably from MGO
Just forget it he is probably from MGO
T Vance
Regular Member
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conservative85 wrote:
conservative85 wrote:
I was wondering if some of those that are annoying over there might come over here and troll.
conservative85
Regular Member
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Hell he's pry jus a anti
Hell he's pry jus a anti
autosurgeon
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Yeah I noticed a jump in new posters over here that seemed to be causing trouble and had no location by their name....They are most likely trying to stir up our cozy little nest over here!
Yeah I noticed a jump in new posters over here that seemed to be causing trouble and had no location by their name....They are most likely trying to stir up our cozy little nest over here!
conservative85
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Yeah I haven't heard from our new friend the bald-enhancer or sompthin or anoder!...kittenkin has been fairly silent since his last post too!
Yeah I haven't heard from our new friend the bald-enhancer or sompthin or anoder!...kittenkin has been fairly silent since his last post too!
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conservative85 wrote:
Concealed Pistol License (CCW Permit) & Renewal[/size][/font]
http://www.michigan.gov/msp/0,1607,7-123-1586_27094-10953--,00.html
[font="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"][size="-1"][font="Arial, Helvetica"]"The Michigan Commission On Law Enforcement Standards (MCOLES) is responsible for certifying firearm instructors and instructional programs for the purpose of providing pistol safety training to CCW applicants as required in the new statute[/font][/size][/font]"
FIRSARMS LAWS OF MICHIGAN
Number of times used
CCW = 55 times
CPL = 0 times
Concealed Pistol License = 43 times
"750.227 is concealed weapons. period! Without a license to carry a pistol, you are considered carrying a concealed weapon. "
You are not considered carrying a concealed weapon, you are carrying a concealed weapon even if you have a CPL and even if the weapon is a pistol
"As I said in the previous post It is a pistol until you violate the CCW law, or use the pistol in a violent, or malicious manner."
That is wrong and only your opinion, the Michigan. Firearms Law states different. Look it up for yourself .
28.421
(b) "Firearm" means a weapon from which a dangerous projectile may be propelled by an explosive, or by gas or air.
Those are facts even if you don't like them. If you have facts to refute them please post them for everyone to see.
conservative85 wrote:
[font="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"][size="-1"]Here ya go
Concealed Pistol License (CCW Permit) & Renewal[/size][/font]
http://www.michigan.gov/msp/0,1607,7-123-1586_27094-10953--,00.html
[font="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"][size="-1"][font="Arial, Helvetica"]"The Michigan Commission On Law Enforcement Standards (MCOLES) is responsible for certifying firearm instructors and instructional programs for the purpose of providing pistol safety training to CCW applicants as required in the new statute[/font][/size][/font]"
FIRSARMS LAWS OF MICHIGAN
Number of times used
CCW = 55 times
CPL = 0 times
Concealed Pistol License = 43 times
"750.227 is concealed weapons. period! Without a license to carry a pistol, you are considered carrying a concealed weapon. "
You are not considered carrying a concealed weapon, you are carrying a concealed weapon even if you have a CPL and even if the weapon is a pistol
"As I said in the previous post It is a pistol until you violate the CCW law, or use the pistol in a violent, or malicious manner."
That is wrong and only your opinion, the Michigan. Firearms Law states different. Look it up for yourself .
28.421
(b) "Firearm" means a weapon from which a dangerous projectile may be propelled by an explosive, or by gas or air.
Those are facts even if you don't like them. If you have facts to refute them please post them for everyone to see.
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conservative85 wrote:
You obviously don't know when I started reading these boards or how long I've been around here, assumptions are as good as opinions without proof.
conservative85 wrote:
It really doesn't mater what you call your firearms, name them sal, joan, bessie or what ever. By MICHIGAN LAW A FIREARM IS A WEAPON and all the bad mouthing ranting and complaining won't change that..
You obviously don't know when I started reading these boards or how long I've been around here, assumptions are as good as opinions without proof.
autosurgeon
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Kitkin the fact of the matter is you are splitting hairs. It is a CPL as that is what the statute calls it and that is what it says on the licence itself. If you want to be a part of this little community you will stop trying to cram your idea that it is a CCW licence down everyones throat as it is not. If the legislature would have intended it to be a CCW licence they would have called it that in the law and on the licence.
Kitkin the fact of the matter is you are splitting hairs. It is a CPL as that is what the statute calls it and that is what it says on the licence itself. If you want to be a part of this little community you will stop trying to cram your idea that it is a CCW licence down everyones throat as it is not. If the legislature would have intended it to be a CCW licence they would have called it that in the law and on the licence.
conservative85
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I simply re-posted the law you posted. There is no mention of a weapon, or the word CCW. Of course I am right because I asked you to answer the question and you did not. Your a Rhetoric Whore. In your last post CCW is in parenthesis perhaps this is to merely show that it was called a CCW for those who used to be familiar CCw permit. Not to mention your posting a link that is FAQ, not statue. This MCOLES is so certified to train blah blah blah. it means nothing in court they are not Legislatures.
I never said I new the law better than you, I merely pointed out as every one else that it is not a CCW, it is a CPL.
You are the one being crass, You asked for the treatment your getting, you said your self your not sticking around and it is just as well.
Besides I don't remember any rules of codes & conducts when it comes to how we have to treat the likes of you and your kind during post. God it's like being on a play ground, you can dish it out but when it comes to taking it your just simply a Troll
bye bye
I simply re-posted the law you posted. There is no mention of a weapon, or the word CCW. Of course I am right because I asked you to answer the question and you did not. Your a Rhetoric Whore. In your last post CCW is in parenthesis perhaps this is to merely show that it was called a CCW for those who used to be familiar CCw permit. Not to mention your posting a link that is FAQ, not statue. This MCOLES is so certified to train blah blah blah. it means nothing in court they are not Legislatures.
I never said I new the law better than you, I merely pointed out as every one else that it is not a CCW, it is a CPL.
You are the one being crass, You asked for the treatment your getting, you said your self your not sticking around and it is just as well.
Besides I don't remember any rules of codes & conducts when it comes to how we have to treat the likes of you and your kind during post. God it's like being on a play ground, you can dish it out but when it comes to taking it your just simply a Troll
bye bye
RabbiVJ
Campaign Veteran
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SpringerXDacp wrote:
SpringerXDacp wrote:
Alaska does have permits but only for reciprocity purpoes afaik...
SpringerXDacp
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RabbiVJ wrote:
RabbiVJ wrote:
That is correct.