Another victory for 'Zero Tolerance'

The student was still in possession of the shotguns while on school property. His truck, and thus the shotguns, were off-campus, yes, but he was still "in possession" of them via having the keys, presumably, on his person, with the firearms in them, within easy access of the school.

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Armond Reese wrote:

The student was still in possession of the shotguns while on school property. His truck, and thus the shotguns, were off-campus, yes, but he was still "in possession" of them via having the keys, presumably, on his person, with the firearms in them, within easy access of the school.

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I sure hope that isn't the case. That would imply that I am always in possession of a firearm on school grounds, because I live near the school and have a key to my house.

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The student was still in possession of the shotguns while on school property. His truck, and thus the shotguns, were off-campus, yes, but he was still "in possession" of them via having the keys, presumably, on his person, with the firearms in them, within easy access of the school.

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Armond Reese wrote:

The student was still in possession of the shotguns while on school property. His truck, and thus the shotguns, were off-campus, yes, but he was still "in possession" of them via having the keys, presumably, on his person, with the firearms in them, within easy access of the school.

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Then I suppose he would have been 'in possession' of the shotgun just the same had it been located at home (another item he has the keys to?)

Edit: Doh, Riana beat me to it.

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Riana wrote:

Armond Reese wrote:

The student was still in possession of the shotguns while on school property. His truck, and thus the shotguns, were off-campus, yes, but he was still "in possession" of them via having the keys, presumably, on his person, with the firearms in them, within easy access of the school.

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I sure hope that isn't the case. That would imply that I am always in possession of a firearm on school grounds, because I live near the school and have a key to my house.

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Hey, I'm just using school logic. <--- Sadly, you don't see much of that anymore

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Armond Reese wrote:

The student was still in possession of the shotguns while on school property. His truck, and thus the shotguns, were off-campus, yes, but he was still "in possession" of them via having the keys, presumably, on his person, with the firearms in them, within easy access of the school.

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Then I suppose he would have been 'in possession' of the shotgun just the same had it been located at home (another item he has the keys to?)

Edit: Doh, Riana beat me to it.

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Vehicle != Home

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The student was still in possession of the shotguns while on school property. His truck, and thus the shotguns, were off-campus, yes, but he was still "in possession" of them via having the keys, presumably, on his person, with the firearms in them, within easy access of the school.

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Armond Reese wrote:

The student was still in possession of the shotguns while on school property. His truck, and thus the shotguns, were off-campus, yes, but he was still "in possession" of them via having the keys, presumably, on his person, with the firearms in them, within easy access of the school.

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I have to disagree. He was not in possetion of weapons while on SCHOOL PROPERTY. I have guns in my home, I have the keys to my home on me.My workplace has a policy of no weapons on the premises. If my car is parked off the lot they have NOTHING to say legally or otherwise. They may try to make it sound like the school ZONE extends beyond its property line but in a court of law your property line is pretty much cut and dried.

I will be looking forward to seeing the outcome of this one

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As an adult student attending a university in pursuit of a Masters Degree, this case has disturbing implications for me and thousands of other law-abiding adult firearms owners around the country.

I never carry on campus, because even with my CHP, carrying on school property is prohibited in NC. I rarely even leave my pistol locked up in my truck which I park SEVERAL blocks off-campus) because I don't want to have to worry about some putz breaking into my vehicle while I'm in class and making off with my prized Para. When I go to classes, I usually just leave my firearm at home. I don't like to do that, but it's my only alternative, considering the high rate of vehicle B&E in Greenville, and the potential penelties I may suffer if caught with a firearm (as a student, the penelties are MUCH higher than for non-students).

If this DOES go to court, and the school wins, this would set a liberty-threatening precedent.

Because then we would have to worry about the fact that even though our vehicles are parked off campus and our guns are locked up inside the vehicle, the moment we set foot on campus, we are in violation of state law because according to the "logic" of this school, we are still "in possession" of said firearm.

This has the potential to be a VERY bad situation for ALL gun owners. This policy (if more widely adopted by other school systems) would essentially ban ANYONE from setting foot on any school campus if they kept a firearm in their vehicle.

Scary...

If they take this one to court, I hope they establish a legal defense fund, because I will GLADLY contribute to getting this ridiculous ruling overturned. I would suggest ANYONE else who has children in school, or is currently attending or plannign to attend college should support this young man and his family in ANY WAY POSSIBLE...

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Dreamer wrote:

As an adult student attending a university in pursuit of a Masters Degree, this case has disturbing implications for me and thousands of other law-abiding adult firearms owners around the country.

I never carry on campus, because even with my CHP, carrying on school property is prohibited in NC. I rarely even leave my pistol locked up in my truck which I park SEVERAL blocks off-campus) because I don't want to have to worry about some putz breaking into my vehicle while I'm in class and making off with my prized Para. When I go to classes, I usually just leave my firearm at home. I don't like to do that, but it's my only alternative, considering the high rate of vehicle B&E in Greenville, and the potential penelties I may suffer if caught with a firearm (as a student, the penelties are MUCH higher than for non-students).

If this DOES go to court, and the school wins, this would set a liberty-threatening precedent.

Because then we would have to worry about the fact that even though our vehicles are parked off campus and our guns are locked up inside the vehicle, the moment we set foot on campus, we are in violation of state law because according to the "logic" of this school, we are still "in possession" of said firearm.

This has the potential to be a VERY bad situation for ALL gun owners. This policy (if more widely adopted by other school systems) would essentially ban ANYONE from setting foot on any school campus if they kept a firearm in their vehicle.

Scary...

If they take this one to court, I hope they establish a legal defense fund, because I will GLADLY contribute to getting this ridiculous ruling overturned. I would suggest ANYONE else who has children in school, or is currently attending or plannign to attend college should support this young man and his family in ANY WAY POSSIBLE...

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You don't have to worry about it affecting you. Higher education is generally treated much differently. For one thing, basically everybody who attends college is directly paying the collegefor the privilege, and in addition, college students are usually of legal age, and therefore have many more rights within the education system than minor students.

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