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    When I first purchased my rifle at the Gun Show I was told by the dealer that if I wanted to use it for hunting, I would need to purchase a 5 round magazine apart from the 30 magazine it came with. I have been told this by three dealers, both hunter uncles and other individuals who hunt often. BNH and myself were having a discussion on DNR regulations when I made the off hand comment about the maximum limit of ammunition a firearm can hold while hunting Deer in Wisconsin. He contested my statement and found myself at a loss. I have never actually read anywhere in the regulations a limit on ammo in a firearm sans water-foul three shells limit. I think misinformation has been spread regarding this aspect of hunting. But for the sake of discussion...

    Can anyone make a cite to any DNR regulation or state lawthat limits ammo for anything other than water-foul?

    Is it illegal to hunt deer (or any other animal)with a 30rd magazine in a firearm?






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    I used to think there was a limit. Not sure what, but like 5 or 6 or so. But I have never seen that anywhere or heard it from an official source. After buying my AR, a lot of people lead me to believe I could hunt with it, using my 30-round magazines. If I had gotten out and went hunting this year, I might have tried it out!
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    I have not hunted deer in 8 years, so I am a bit rusty on the regs.
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    Theonly restriction on magazine capacity in Wisconsin is migratory bird (water foul) which is in line with federal regulations, that being three (3) rounds total.


    There isno maximum magazine capacityfor allother forms of hunting or carryin Wisconsin.

    For those who voted "yes," likePara requested, please cite your source.




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    The only the laws that are enforced do we suffer, like a five round magazine limit or having within reach an encased hunting-firearm in a vehicle.

    I've just watched dozens of strangers walk four abreast down roads bordered on both sides, for miles, by private land.

    I've just watched many cased deer guns pulled from behind PU seats.

    Citizens legally armed with pistols as defensive weapons are a minority wrongly discriminated against.

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    bnhcomputing wrote:
    Theonly restriction on magazine capacity in Wisconsin is migratory bird (water foul) which is in line with federal regulations, that being three (3) rounds total.
    I think that a citation preferably of State law is being sought.

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    Master Doug Huffman wrote:
    bnhcomputing wrote:
    Theonly restriction on magazine capacity in Wisconsin is migratory bird (water foul) which is in line with federal regulations, that being three (3) rounds total.
    I think that a citation preferably of State law is being sought.
    Right from the Wisconsin DNR WEB site:

    http://www.dnr.state.wi.us/org/land/...weapons/Q4.htm

    Are there any magazine capacity restrictions for firearms?
    There is a 3 shell maximum firearm capacity while hunting migratory game birds. For all other species there is no maximum magazine capacity, however, fully automatic weapons are prohibited.



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    Parabellum wrote:
    Can anyone make a cite to any DNR regulation or state lawthat limits ammo for anything other than water-foul?

    Is it illegal to hunt deer (or any other animal)with a 30rd magazine in a firearm?
    Since no such Code or Statute exists, there is none to cite....

    If such a silly Code did exist, the DNR would have reference it in giant bold letters in the little paper "rule" books they give our for free with a license. Few people realize that the little paper books are not the actual "laws" but they are fairly safe assuming so..



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    bnhcomputing wrote:
    For those who voted "yes," likePara requested, please cite your source.
    The question for the pole is "Did you believe there was an ammo limit when hunting deer in Wisconsin?" I answered yes, because back when I deer hunting, I did believe there was a limit. I'm not saying I saw that anywhere and can prove that there is. Just saying that's what I believed at the time.
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    All Wisconsin hunting statutes are contained under Chapter 29 Subchapters II, III, and IV. There is no restriction as to magazine capacity, other than migratory birds.

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    I limit on the number of rounds, in fact I just took my 6.8spc AR-15 rifle into the woods and came out with a nice 5 point buck this weekend... I was only using my 10 round magazines though (a pair of them) because having 25 rounds would be overkill and only extra weight I would have to carry around...

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    The MI DNR, in all their infinite wisdom, limits semi-automatic rifles (except .22) and shotguns to 6 shots, everything else is unlimited (except for federal migratory 3 shot restriction). I have no idea why they came up with such a retarded thing....but it's the way it is.
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    Slap in the Beta Mag and go to town....



    My question was , in this years pamphlet it says shotguns have to be 18" and rifles 16" to hunt with.... Is that codified or is DNR making up rules as they go again?

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    Some years ago the idiots at the Brady Campaign falsely stated on their website that it was illegal to hunt with more than 10 rounds in every state. A few minutes of searching the web showed that there were actually very few states that had a limitation... I wrote to them and pointed that it was not true in Wisconsin, nor was it true in a majority of the states. Of course they're not know for their concern about small details, like the truth. They are only concerned with pushing an agenda.
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    Parabellum wrote:
    Can anyone make a cite to any DNR regulation or state lawthat limits ammo for anything other than water-foul?

    Is it illegal to hunt deer (or any other animal)with a 30rd magazine in a firearm?
    There is no regs on ammo limits other than the migratory bird.

    I could hunt with a 30 round mag, but why would I want to? Way too heavy to carry and who can haul 30 deer out of the woods at one time? <g> I'm assuming you only need one shot to drop them, like me!

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    Spray and Pray:

    The minimum barrel lengths of 16 inch for rifles and 18 inches for shotgun was established by the National Firearms Act of 1934.



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    I agree. I hunt in a shotgun zone. My weapon of choice is a single shot Winchester 12 gauge with a 4X scope. Last Saturday I got my deer, seven point buck, with one shot at 105 yards. The first shot is the one that counts, My opinion isthat magazines are just a place to carry extra ammunition instead of in ones pocket. But then again to each their own. Thats why there are so many different makes of automobiles.





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    Lammie wrote:
    All Wisconsin hunting statutes are contained under Chapter 29 Subchapters II, III, and IV. There is no restriction as to magazine capacity, other than migratory birds.
    Don't forget about the administrative code. NR10 is the remainder of the hunting "laws" and much of what is found in the little paper "rule" books you get with your license. Violating the Administrative code subjects you only to a civil forfeiture (fine).

    The code contains no magazine restriction either.

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    SprayAndPray wrote:
    Slap in the Beta Mag and go to town....



    My question was , in this years pamphlet it says shotguns have to be 18" and rifles 16" to hunt with.... Is that codified or is DNR making up rules as they go again?
    Do not confuse the little "rule" book with actual Statutes or Code. They are loosely stating that they are illegal. This is the truth unless they are registered. The little rule book is only intended to be a general guideline to keep people out of trouble. The 16" and 18" "rule" is intended todiscourage Bubba from hacking his barrel shorter.

    The reality is that so long as you have the$200 tax stamp, you may hunt with a suppressed and short barreled rifle. There is no NR code nor WI Statute prohibiting it,just as there is nothing prohibiting Open Carryand nothing prohibiting you from wearing a purple shirt on Thursdays....

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    Judging from the person hunting about a mile away from me this weekend, there is no obvious limit. The way He/She show their semiauto rifle, you'd think they came upon a herd of deer and had unlimited tags.

    About an hour into the hunting season, I heard a rifle fire off a steady and quick ten shots, a moment passed, and five more shots were heard. Now I am for a person to carry whatever, but if you fire off fifteen shots in such a rapid succession and don't come up with a herd of elephants, then you should just get out of the woods and practice for a while.

    But it did sound pretty cool to hear that many shots go off, I started to wish I had magazines with more capacity that the Remington 700 I was using. But then I was taught to shoot with a single shot and to make my shots count, and they do.


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    I live within ear shot of our range. I know that our hunters hunt like they practice. Some days I hear good timed fire as one shoots, examines the target, corrects and shoots again. Other days I hear the pause to examine the target only after the gun is really(!) emptied.

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    29.014Rule-making for this chapter.

    29.014(1)
    (1) The department shall establish and maintain open and closed seasons for fish and game and any bag limits, size limits, rest days and conditions governing the taking of fish and game that will conserve the fish and game supply and ensure the citizens of this state continued opportunities for good fishing, hunting and trapping.


    29.014(2)(2)

    29.014(2)(b)(b) All of the rules promulgated under this chapter are prima facie reasonable and lawful until found to be otherwise in a final determination by a court.

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    Wisconsin statute.

    941.28Possession of short-barreled shotgun or short-barreled rifle.
    (1) In this section:

    (a) "Rifle" means a firearm designed or redesigned, made or remade, and intended to be fired from the shoulder or hip and designed or redesigned and made or remade to use the energy of a propellant in a metallic cartridge to fire through a rifled barrel a single projectile for each pull of the trigger.

    (b) "Short-barreled rifle" means a rifle having one or more barrels having a length of less than 16 inches measured from closed breech or bolt face to muzzle or a rifle having an overall length of less than 26 inches.

    (c) "Short-barreled shotgun" means a shotgun having one or more barrels having a length of less than 18 inches measured from closed breech or bolt face to muzzle or a shotgun having an overall length of less than 26 inches.

    (d) "Shotgun" means a weapon designed or redesigned, made or remade, and intended to be fired from the shoulder or hip and designed or redesigned and made or remade to use the energy of a propellant in a fixed shotgun shell to fire through a smooth bore either a number of ball shot or a single projectile for each single pull of the trigger.

    (2) No person may sell or offer to sell, transport, purchase, possess or go armed with a short-barreled shotgun or short-barreled rifle.

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    Lammie wrote:
    29.014Rule-making for this chapter.

    29.014(1)
    (1) The department shall establish and maintain open and closed seasons for fish and game and any bag limits, size limits, rest days and conditions governing the taking of fish and game that will conserve the fish and game supply and ensure the citizens of this state continued opportunities for good fishing, hunting and trapping.


    29.014(2) (2)

    29.014(2)(b) (b) All of the rules promulgated under this chapter are prima facie reasonable and lawful until found to be otherwise in a final determination by a court.
    This gives teeth to theDNR to draft and enforce the Administrative Code as it relates to hunting (NR10) and fishing. NR10 is where the actual hunting hours, etc are to be found... NATURAL RESOURCES Fish, Game and Enforcement, Forestry and Recreation

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    Lammie wrote:

    Wisconsin statute.

    941.28Possession of short-barreled shotgun or short-barreled rifle.
    (1) In this section:

    (a) "Rifle" means a firearm designed or redesigned, made or remade, and intended to be fired from the shoulder or hip and designed or redesigned and made or remade to use the energy of a propellant in a metallic cartridge to fire through a rifled barrel a single projectile for each pull of the trigger.

    (b) "Short-barreled rifle" means a rifle having one or more barrels having a length of less than 16 inches measured from closed breech or bolt face to muzzle or a rifle having an overall length of less than 26 inches.

    (c) "Short-barreled shotgun" means a shotgun having one or more barrels having a length of less than 18 inches measured from closed breech or bolt face to muzzle or a shotgun having an overall length of less than 26 inches.

    (d) "Shotgun" means a weapon designed or redesigned, made or remade, and intended to be fired from the shoulder or hip and designed or redesigned and made or remade to use the energy of a propellant in a fixed shotgun shell to fire through a smooth bore either a number of ball shot or a single projectile for each single pull of the trigger.

    (2) No person may sell or offer to sell, transport, purchase, possess or go armed with a short-barreled shotgun or short-barreled rifle.
    Don't forget the most important part.....



    (4)
    This section does not apply to the sale, purchase, possession, use or transportation of a short−barreled shotgun or short− barreled rifle to or by any armed forces or national guard personnel in line of duty, any peace officer of the United States or of any political subdivision of the United States or any person who has complied with the licensing and registration requirements under 26 USC 5801 to 5872. This section does not apply to the manufacture of short−barreled shotguns or short−barreled rifles for any person or group authorized to possess these weapons. The restriction on transportation contained in this section does not apply to common carriers. This section shall not apply to any firearm that may be lawfully possessed under federal law, or any firearm that could have been lawfully registered at the time of the enactment of the national firearms act of 1968.

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