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    Mods, please add sections for US territories and possessions.

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    I don't know how much traffic there would be, more for Puerto Rico, I was wondering about Samoa though I might be going big big maybe.
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    McX wrote:
    DO they OC in Puerto Rico?
    If we had a forum for them we might know.
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    Hawkflyer wrote:
    McX wrote:
    DO they OC in Puerto Rico?
    If we had a forum for them we might know.
    Not currently legal under state law.

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    cagueits wrote:
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    McX wrote:
    DO they OC in Puerto Rico?
    If we had a forum for them we might know.
    Not currently legal under state law.
    Please cite to authority when you make such statements. Without citing your sources, nobody has any reason to believe you. What's worse is when someone says something like that, people take their word for it, spread that word, and the originator was actually wrong, or not entirely correct. I'm not saying you're wrong, just that it would be very helpful to the community if someone such as yourself, who knows a law, would point us to your source so that we may learn it, and also cite it in the future when we discuss the matter with others.

    Also, see the basic forum rules:

    7) If you state a rule of law, it is incumbent upon you to try to cite, as best you can, to authority. Citing to authority, using links when available,is what makes OCDO so successful. An authority is a published source of law that can back your claim up - statute, ordinance, court case, newspaper article covering a legal issue, etc.


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    virginiatuck wrote:
    cagueits wrote:
    Hawkflyer wrote:
    McX wrote:
    DO they OC in Puerto Rico?
    If we had a forum for them we might know.
    Not currently legal under state law.
    Please cite to authority when you make such statements. Without citing your sources, nobody has any reason to believe you. What's worse is when someone says something like that, people take their word for it, spread that word, and the originator was actually wrong, or not entirely correct. I'm not saying you're wrong, just that it would be very helpful to the community if someone such as yourself, who knows a law, would point us to your source so that we may learn it, and also cite it in the future when we discuss the matter with others.

    Also, see the basic forum rules:

    7) If you state a rule of law, it is incumbent upon you to try to cite, as best you can, to authority. Citing to authority, using links when available,is what makes OCDO so successful. An authority is a published source of law that can back your claim up - statute, ordinance, court case, newspaper article covering a legal issue, etc.

    25LPRA Sec 456a(d)

    "The weapons license established in this section empowers the licensee to be the owner of a maximum of two (2) firearms, except as provided below, regarding acquisitions through inheritance, or when the licensee holds a target shooting or hunting permit, in which case there shall be no established limit. ... The license also empowers the licensee to acquire, buy, sell, donate, transfer, assign, hold, possess, have custody of and transport, bear and carry firearms, ammunition and any pertinent accessory anywhere under the jurisdiction of the Commonwealth of Puerto Rico; Provided, That:

    (1) The firearms may be borne, carried, and transported in a hidden or unobtrusive manner, and the Superintendent shall provide by regulations, the procedure for any law enforcement officer as described herein, to issue a courtesy ticket which shall be prepared to such effect, which shall be remitted to the Puerto Rico Police Weapons License Office, to be filed with the record of the licensee. The Superintendent may impose a fine of up to two hundred dollars ($200) for recidivism in carrying or transporting arms in an ostentatious or conspicuous manner, as well as the procedure for the revision of the same, at the request of the interested party upon whom the fine is imposed. ...

    (2) Unless the licensee also holds a permit to carry weapons, the weapon may not be carried by the licensee on his/her person; and that to be able to transport said weapon without a permit to carry, the weapon must be unloaded and transported inside a closed case whose contents are not visible and which may not be in plain sight. Provided, That in the case of private security guards who hold a permit to carry, are uniformed and in the exercise of their duties, they may carry the weapon in plain sight...."

    http://www.michie.com/puertorico/lpe...plates&2.0#

    25 LPRA Sec 458c:

    "Any person who transports any firearm or any part thereof without having a weapons license, or carries any firearm without the corresponding permit to carry weapons, shall be guilty of a felony and upon conviction shall be punished with a penalty of imprisonment for a fixed term of ten (10) years. ... ;should there be extenuating circumstances, it may be reduced to a minimum of five (5) years. ..."

    http://www.michie.com/puertorico/lpe...plates&2.0#

    Links should be good for a couple of days. If they go bad you can find the statutes here:

    http://www.gobierno.pr/Estado/inicio/Leyes.htm

    The PR Supreme Court has issued opinions on these subjects, feel free to look them up here:

    http://www.ramajudicial.pr/OpinionesTS/dtSearch.html


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    oldgoat wrote:
    Mods, please add sections for US territories and possessions.
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