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    Meant to mention this last week, guess since I have a few hours while my x-wife rapes me financially in my divorce, I decided to mention this.

    Last week went into subway here in N.Phoenix (I'm waaaay up here, near Anthem) and there are often Phoenix Police and Maricopa County deputies here, some actually know me.

    I'm not sure what it was, but walked into Subway, open carrying, in my jeans and shirt. I think the entire Maricopa County Sheriffs Swat team had to be in there; two of the guys jumped out of their seat, one of the guy got pulled down by a guy with stripes (Corporal? not sure...) who told him to settle down.

    The conversation while waiting in line was:
    "I think I know that guy, he's on the job...."
    "NAh, he's just one of those open carry nutcases..."
    "Yeah, seeing a bunch more of them..."
    "No, I know the guy, he's with Phoenix PD."

    A waive to them, a smile worked just fine!

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    If you'd have walked in to the same Subway here in Prescott, and the SWAT team had been munchin, they would have still jumped up, but only to ask you what you're carrying.

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    are you with phoenix PD?

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    r6-rider wrote:
    are you with phoenix PD?
    Thats what I was wondering.

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    Where are they hiring these guys from? That didn't sound at all like 'Zonie LEO's

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    Makes you wonder about how things would go down if you ever have to use your firearm for defense. Did you have one of those "GOOD GUY" sashes?

    My location says I am from Sierra Vista, AZ which is where I live now but I actually lived in MO for 26 years! So please stop telling me I don't know what I'm talking about when I post in the Missouri forum!

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    Sonora Rebel wrote:
    Where are they hiring these guys from? That didn't sound at all like 'Zonie LEO's
    MCSO, right? Scions of the single most corrupt individual in all of Arizona Law Enforcement.

    Seems to be enough explanation to me.

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    Pistol-Packing-Preacher-in-PV wrote:
    Sonora Rebel wrote:
    Where are they hiring these guys from?* That didn't sound at all like 'Zonie LEO's
    MCSO, right? Scions of the single most corrupt individual in all of Arizona Law Enforcement.

    Seems to be enough explanation to me.
    Sounds about right.

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    I don't believe that their should be any Swat Teams. LE was never meant to be a paramilitary organization.

    When the time comes people will see that the Swat Teams will have nothing to do with protecting you and have everything to do with controlling you

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    mFonz77 wrote:
    Makes you wonder about how things would go down if you ever have to use your firearm for defense. Did you have one of those "GOOD GUY" sashes?
    That looks like a girl--so technically it would be classified a "good girl", and therefore the sash would be a "good girl sash"

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    I don't have a problem with swat team,s I do have a problem that judges pretty much give warrants for anything. Breaking down a door, pulling someone out of bed should be pretty much reserved for almost no one.

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    Calling OCers nutcases is a whole lot more of a reaction that I've ever had out of them. The most extreme encounter I've ever had in AZ was a cop noticing my gun, smiling at me, and saying hey hows it going? Most took a quick glance at me, if not less, and went about their day.

    I only spent about 6 and a half months in the valley, but the Phoenic PD always impressed me as being quite top notch. At least the publicly visible aspects of it.
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    The complete and utter truth can be challenged from every direction and it will always hold up. Accordingly there are few greater displays of illegitimacy than to attempt to impede free thought and communication.

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    mFonz77 wrote:
    Makes you wonder about how things would go down if you ever have to use your firearm for defense. Did you have one of those "GOOD GUY" sashes?
    'Looks like some bitch inna green sash just blew away an unarmed citizen in ugly pants'n fixin' to do a mag dump. There is nowhere she could conceal that pistol dressed like that.

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    Phoenix PD ain't Maricopa County Sheriffs. Our Sheriff is under federal investigation, numerous ACLU lawsuits, including one where they pulled over a US Citizen, dragged him out of his car, handcuffed him, took him to the spot of an immigration raid, and tried to get him deported...

    Phoenix PD last year had a scuffle with MCSO when they were serving a court order regarding the activity of the Sheriff, and proceeded to try to arrest the other officers for enforcing a court order.



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    Pace wrote:
    I don't have a problem with swat team,s I do have a problem that judges pretty much give warrants for anything. Breaking down a door, pulling someone out of bed should be pretty much reserved for almost no one.

    Best,
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    I actually do have a problem with swat teams---any time we seek to militarize law enforcement--it is a terrible idea.

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    What is the solution then when dangerous felons w/illegal guns have to be arrested? I don't disagree SWAT is overused, but there *is* organized crime in this country, including kiddie porn rings run by albanian, russian and other mob who carry guns. Just let them keep on kidnapping kids, setting up porn rings... come on.

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    Pace wrote:
    What is the solution then when dangerous felons w/illegal guns have to be arrested? I don't disagree SWAT is overused, but there *is* organized crime in this country, including kiddie porn rings run by albanian, russian and other mob who carry guns. Just let them keep on kidnapping kids, setting up porn rings... come on.
    I'm sorry, I fail to see the connection between the Mob and SWAT teams. Exactly what function would they serve?

    And, what exactly does child porn do that SWAT is trained to prevent?

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    wwww

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    marshaul wrote:
    Pistol-Packing-Preacher-in-PV wrote:
    Sonora Rebel wrote:
    Where are they hiring these guys from? That didn't sound at all like 'Zonie LEO's
    MCSO, right? Scions of the single most corrupt individual in all of Arizona Law Enforcement.

    Seems to be enough explanation to me.
    Sounds about right.
    Go on ahead and stay in slipper land, we got enough of you wanna be freedom fighters from kali anyway, Clean up your own state/city then come on down and see if you learned anything. AS for Joe, hes the only guy keeping the wets at bay, also giving the Feds lessons in enforcing illegal immigration.

    ADMIN NOTE: See the reference to "wets"? That is why the status under RJ's name says "Banned". We will NOT tolerate racist comments on OCDO!

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    I removed my comment because I dont think racist remarks deserve any reply. They say it all.




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    Pace wrote:
    I removed my comment because I dont think racist remarks deserve any reply. They say it all.
    Saying "spic" is racist against Mexicans as a category of people. But the term "wet back" is not by itself racist. It is used that way most often, but in this context, I take it merely as a rude way to describe illegal immigrants, who I am the first to agree are a very serious problem, particularly along the southern border.

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    Pace wrote:
    What is the solution then when dangerous felons w/illegal guns have to be arrested? I don't disagree SWAT is overused, but there *is* organized crime in this country, including kiddie porn rings run by albanian, russian and other mob who carry guns. Just let them keep on kidnapping kids, setting up porn rings... come on.
    I'm sorry, it does not take a swat team to arrest a porn ring. Also, the use of swat teams has reached far beyond what they should be used for.

    Having a swat team for busting up the occasional Albanian and Russian mafia operations does not justify their existence. Swat teams nationwide like to walk around and dress like and act like the Army--and they are not.

    Law enforcement should not be militarized for any purpose. Militarization is the business of the Active duty, national guard and the state militias which fall under the authority of the national guard. If the police want to act like the army--join the army. If they want to be police--be police, but don't mix the two.

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    suntzu wrote:
    Pace wrote:
    I don't have a problem with swat team,s I do have a problem that judges pretty much give warrants for anything. Breaking down a door, pulling someone out of bed should be pretty much reserved for almost no one.

    Best,
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    I actually do have a problem with swat teams---any time we seek to militarize law enforcement--it is a terrible idea.
    I'm waiting for the SS lightning slashes on their armbands. SWAT is a beacon for every sociopath that entered the cops because his IQ was too low for the army--or Burger King. Of course the next step is historical:

    "We must take the guns from the people to make the streets safe for the SS."

    A. Hitler
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    suntzu wrote:
    Law enforcement should not be militarized for any purpose. Militarization is the business of the Active duty, national guard and the state militias which fall under the authority of the national guard. If the police want to act like the army--join the army. If they want to be police--be police, but don't mix the two.
    that is one of the biggest problems i have noticed within the last couple years in this country. LE has WAY to much power. its, "lets send the military over seas so they can not do their job because all the UN and NATO rules" than, "we dont actually want to arm military personnel in america because they are a threat to homeland security"

    so they rely on police for EVERYTHING! civilian police for military bases, civilian police for riots, crowd control, and natural disasters (until they need money, then they cry to the federal government) hell even over seas they have to hire civilians because our "military rules" dont apply to them so they can actually get done what needs to be done in war. kill the enemy!

    after seeing what happened to those 3 navy seals, i question if i ever want to re-enlist


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