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MountainGator wrote:
Hey Idaho Cowboy...
While I relize that this thread has turned into somewhat of a Pi**ing contest, I do argee that removing the prohibition on carring CONCEALED in a restrauant that serves alcohol should be a top priority.It is rediciously funny (and absurd) that any woman can carry in her purse (not to offend any lady here) because of the luggage clasue, but that no man can carry IWB. Same for trains...
But you state "Another MT problem not allowed to have gatherings of armed men/women for such things like the IdahoOpen Carry picnic'sin parks with families." What is your basis for stating that?
Most or nearly cities / towns from what I am told and have checked on do not allow OC or CC in city parks.
>> Montana Constitution, Article II, Section 33. Importation of armed
>> persons. No armed person or persons or armed body of men shall be
>> brought into this state for the preservation of the peace, or the
>> suppression of domestic violence, except upon the application of the
>> legislature, or of the governor when the legislature cannot be convened.
>>
>> and
>>
>> 45-8-107. Purpose. The legislature recognizes every citizen's
>> constitutional right to express beliefs on any subject, to associate
>> with others who share similar beliefs, and to keep or bear arms in
>> defense of home, person, or property. Sections 45-8-107 through 45-8-109
>> are not intended to interfere with the exercise of rights protected by
>> the United States constitution or the state constitution. The
>> legislature finds that conspiracies and training activities in the
>> furtherance of unlawful acts of violence against persons or property are
>> not constitutionally protected, pose a threat to public order and
>> safety, and are subject to criminal penalties.
>>
>> 45-8-108. Definitions.
>> 45-8-108. Definitions. As used in 45-8-107 through 45-8-109, unless
>> the context requires otherwise, the following definitions apply:
>> (1) "Civil disorder" means a public disturbance involving unlawful
>> acts of violence by a group of two or more persons that causes an
>> immediate danger of or results in injury to the property or person of
>> any other individual.
>> (2) "Governmental military force" means:
>> (a) the national guard as defined in 10 U.S.C. 101;
>> (b) the organized militia of a state or territory of the United
>> States, the Commonwealth of Puerto Rico, or the District of Columbia not
>> included in the definition of the national guard; and
>> (c) the armed forces of the United States.
>> (3) "Law enforcement agency" means a department of public safety, a
>> police department, a sheriff's department, the highway patrol, or a
>> governmental unit of one or more persons employed by the state or
>> federal government or a political subdivision of the state or federal
>> government, for the purpose of detecting and preventing crime and
>> enforcing laws or ordinances, whose employees are authorized to make
>> arrests for crimes while acting in the scope of their authority.
>> (4) "Peace officer" has the meaning given in 45-2-101.
>>
>> 45-8-109. Civil disorder -- prohibited activities -- penalties --
>> exceptions.
>> 45-8-109. Civil disorder -- prohibited activities -- penalties --
>> exceptions. (1) A person is guilty of a crime if, with one or more other
>> persons, the person purposely or knowingly assembles for the purpose of
>> training in, instructing in the use of, or practicing with any technique
>> or means capable of causing property damage, bodily injury, or death,
>> with the purpose of employing the training, instruction, or practice in
>> a civil disorder.
>> (2) A person convicted of violating the provisions of subsection
>> (1) is guilty of a felony and shall be imprisoned in the state prison
>> for a period not to exceed 10 years or be fined not to exceed $50,000,
>> or both.
>> (3) Subsection (1) does not prohibit:
>> (a) an act protected pursuant to Article II of the Montana
>> constitution;
>> (b) an act of a governmental military force;
>> (c) an act of a peace officer performed in the lawful performance
>> of the officer's duties;
>> (d) an authorized activity of the department of fish, wildlife, and
>> parks; the department of corrections; a law enforcement agency; or the
>> law enforcement academy;
>> (e) training in nonviolent civil disobedience techniques;
>> (f) lawful self-defense or defense of others or an activity
>> intended to teach or practice self-defense or self-defense
>> techniques; or
>> (g) a facility, program, or lawful activity related to firearms
>> instruction or training intended to teach the safe handling and use of
>> firearms or activities or sports related to recreational use or
>> possession of firearms.
>> (4) Sections 45-8-107 through 45-8-109 do not apply to an employer
>> or employees involved in a labor dispute.