Got a "delay" call for firearm purchase

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Went to Dunhams to buy a rifle this am. Did all the paper work and when the clerk went to call it in he said the got a "delay" call. He said they don't tell them why, but I think it means there is something on my file somewhere. I am not a felon nor am I on any watch lists that I am aware of. I have never purchased a gun through a dealer before, I prefer private party transfers. I cant think of any reason that there would be a legal problem with my record. They clerk took my phone number and said he will call me later. If I find out what is going on I will post it here.

Conspiracy theorists may think that my affiliation with several 2a sites may have something to do with it.:shock:

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Best wishes and keep us apprised. That must have been a shock.

Might the NCIS be overloaded with, such as, South Carolina's Black Friday gun-tax holiday purchases?

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I would say unexpected at the least. The possibility of an overloaded check system is a possibility. There were quite a few people at the store at 5:00 AM.

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I had this happen to me once before and it was in fact caused by a backlog of checks. Everything was completed by the next day.

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Background checks for rifles go through the FBI NICS Operations Center. They don't usually get overloaded like the WI Handgun Hotline does. The most common reason I've ever seen for getting delayed is having a common first or last name. Such as Paul Johnson or even worse John Smith. Even with a SSN they take time to ensure that they are transferring the firearm to the correct person. They should have given you a date for which, by law, they can transfer the firearm to you if they do not get a call back from the FBI. IIRC it's generally about a week-week and a half from when the call is placed.

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bigdaddy1 wrote:

I have never purchased a gun through a dealer before, I prefer private party transfers.

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This combined with a similar name to others can cause a delay. If you didn't do so, The use of your social security number canand often doess help simplify the transaction in these cases. If a delay were to occur on a regular basis, then you apply for a unique identity number for NICS purposes and this scenerio is eliminated entirely.

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i worked at a gun store once, these delays happen all the time, normally with in hour or two, they call the store back and everything is good to go.

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Ever since the NICS background checks started, I have not had a purchase that was not delayed by at least 5 business days!
I have even considered applying for the NICS P.I.N.# to avoid delays in the future. My last purchase had 7 business days in limbofrom the initialNICS call, and another 2 days under WI mandated waiting period requirements after the NICS check passes.

If a NICS check gets delayed, and the dealer does not get a reply from them within 72 hours, they can proceed with the transaction anyways and not be breaking any laws. But if the FBI decides you are restricted after this 72 hours, you can expect armed feds to visit your home to remove every firearmyou have, and there is nothing you can do (legally) to stop them.

Allegedly, every purchase has to be investigated from a fresh search, if you are delayed it means there is something that got flagged on the initial call-in, they do more research to come up with a go, or No-Go decision. After the transaction is completed, the FBI must dispose of the records of your particular search. So even after getting cleared for purchase after a discrepancy, those records must bedestroyed and the next purchase starts the process all over from the beginning again.

If you are continually getting "Delayed" with a final approval at a later date. you have the option to get a personal ID# by having fingerprint cards done, and you are allowing the FBI to keep records on you.

Why do I get delayed? I know for a fact that I am the only person in the entire country with my unique name, there are only two othersthat sharemy last name. No felony convictions, no DWI/OWI's, no domestic abuse charges. Nothing but a speeding ticket from 4 years ago. and I still get continual delays with or without my SSN on the paperwork. It sucks that I must surrender my rights by providing information for a PIN# to try to stop these delays. Is it worth it? Give up some rights to privacy and money to the PD to get a print-set done with hopes to stop delays? And it still might not guarantee delay-free purchases.

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Wisconsin has a mandatory 48 hour waiting period on handgun purchases only. The Wisconsin DoJ is the point of contact on handgun purchases. There is no NICS checks on handgun purchases in Wisconsin. NICS checks are only done on long guns. Also a Wisconsin resident cannot purchase a handgun from an out of state dealer.

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Lammie wrote:

Wisconsin has a mandatory 48 hour waiting period on handgun purchases only. The Wisconsin DoJ is the point of contact on handgun purchases. There is no NICS checks on handgun purchases in Wisconsin. NICS checks are only done on long guns. Also a Wisconsin resident cannot purchase a handgun from an out of state dealer.

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A point of contact state does check the NICS database though, usually among other databases.

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[align=left]175.30 Purchase of firearms in contiguous states permitted.[/align]
[align=left]It is lawful for a resident of this state or a corporation or[/align]
[align=left]other business entity maintaining a place of business in this state[/align]
[align=left]to purchase or otherwise obtain a rifle or shotgun in a state contiguous[/align]
[align=left]to this state if the transfer complies with federal law and the[/align]
[align=left]laws of both states.[/align]
[align=left]History: 1971 c. 39.[/align]
[align=left]175.35 Waiting period for purchase of handguns.[/align]
[align=left](1) In this section:[/align]
[align=left](ag) “Criminal history record” includes information reported[/align]
[align=left]to the department under s. 938.396 (2g) that indicates a person[/align]
[align=left]was adjudicated delinquent for an act that if committed by an adult[/align]
[align=left]in this state would be a felony.[/align]
[align=left](ar) “Firearms dealer” means any person engaged in the business[/align]
[align=left]of importing, manufacturing or dealing in firearms and having[/align]
[align=left]a license as an importer, manufacturer or dealer issued by the[/align]
[align=left]U.S. department of the treasury.[/align]
[align=left](at) “Firearms restrictions record search” means a search of[/align]
[align=left]department of justice records to determine whether a person seeking[/align]
[align=left]to purchase a handgun is prohibited from possessing a firearm[/align]
[align=left]under s. 941.29. “Firearms restriction record search” includes a[/align]
[align=left]criminal history record search, a search to determine whether a[/align]
[align=left]person is prohibited from possessing a firearm under s. 51.20 (13)[/align]
[align=left](cv), a search to determine whether the person is subject to an[/align]
[align=left]injunction under s. 813.12 or 813.122, or a tribal injunction, as[/align]
[align=left]defined in s. 813.12 (1) (e), issued by a court established by any[/align]
[align=left]federally recognized Wisconsin Indian tribe or band, except the[/align]
[align=left]Menominee Indian tribe of Wisconsin, that includes notice to the[/align]
[align=left]respondent that he or she is subject to the requirements and penalties[/align]
[align=left]under s. 941.29 and that has been filed with the circuit court[/align]
[align=left]under s. 806.247 (3), and a search to determine whether the person[/align]
[align=left]is prohibited from possessing a firearm under s. 813.125 (4m).[/align]
[align=left](b) “Handgun” means any weapon designed or redesigned, or[/align]
[align=left]made or remade, and intended to be fired while held in one hand[/align]
[align=left]and to use the energy of an explosive to expel a projectile through[/align]
[align=left]a smooth or rifled bore.[/align]
[align=left](c) “Working day” means each day except Saturday, Sunday,[/align]
[align=left]or a legal holiday under s. 995.20.[/align]
[align=left](2) When a firearms dealer sells a handgun, he or she may not[/align]
[align=left]transfer possession of that handgun to any other person until all of[/align]
[align=left]the following have occurred:[/align]
[align=left](a) The transferee has provided identification as required by[/align]
[align=left]rule under sub. (2g) (a).[/align]
[align=left](b) The transferee has completed the notification form[/align]
[align=left]described in sub. (2g) (b).[/align]
[align=left](c) The firearms dealer has conveyed the information from the[/align]
[align=left]completed notification form to the department of justice as[/align]
[align=left]required by rule under sub. (2g) (b) and requested a firearms[/align]
[align=left]restrictions record search.[/align]
[align=left](d) Forty−eight hours, subject to extension under sub. (2g) (c)[/align]
[align=left]4. c., have elapsed from the time that the firearms dealer has[/align]
[align=left]received a confirmation number regarding the firearms restrictions[/align]
[align=left]record search under sub. (2g) (c) from the department of justice[/align]
[align=left]and the firearms dealer has not been notified that the transfer[/align]
[align=left]would be in violation of s. 941.29.[/align]
[align=left](2e) When a transferee completes the notification form[/align]
[align=left]described in sub. (2g) (b), the transferee shall provide truthful[/align]
[align=left]information.[/align]
[align=left](2f) When a firearms dealer requests that the department of[/align]
[align=left]justice provide a firearms restrictions record search under sub.[/align]
[align=left](2g), he or she shall provide truthful information about his or her[/align]
[align=left]status as a firearms dealer and shall provide an accurate firearms[/align]
[align=left]dealer identification number obtained under sub. (2h). A person[/align]
[align=left]may request that the department provide a firearms restrictions[/align]
[align=left]record search under sub. (2g) only if he or she is a firearms dealer.[/align]
[align=left](2g) (a) The department of justice shall promulgate rules prescribing[/align]
[align=left]procedures for a transferee to provide and a firearms[/align]
[align=left]dealer to inspect identification containing a photograph of the[/align]
[align=left]transferee.[/align]
[align=left](b) The department of justice shall promulgate rules prescribing[/align]
[align=left]a notification form for use under sub. (2) requiring the transferee[/align]
[align=left]to provide his or her name, date of birth, gender, race and[/align]
[align=left]social security number and other identification necessary to permit[/align]
[align=left]an accurate firearms restrictions record search under par. (c)[/align]
[align=left]3. and the required notification under par. (c) 4. The department[/align]
[align=left]of justice shall make the forms available at locations throughout[/align]
[align=left]the state.[/align]
[align=left](c) The department of justice shall promulgate rules for firearms[/align]
[align=left]restrictions record searches regarding transferees under sub.[/align]
[align=left](2), including procedures for all of the following:[/align]
[align=left]1. A firearms dealer to convey the information from a completed[/align]
[align=left]notification form to the department using a toll−free telephone[/align]
[align=left]number provided by the department.[/align]
[align=left]2. The department to provide the firearms dealer with a confirmation[/align]
[align=left]number confirming the receipt of the information under[/align]
[align=left]subd. 1.[/align]
[align=left]3. The department to conduct the firearms restrictions record[/align]
[align=left]search regarding the transferee. The rules shall include, but not[/align]
[align=left]be limited to, a requirement that the department use the transaction[/align]
[align=left]information for management of enforcement system and the[/align]
[align=left]national crime information center system. (emphasis mine. The point I was trying to make is that it is not NICS that is delaying the sale it is the Wisconsin DoJ for whatever reasons).[/align]
[align=left]4. The department to notify the dealer, either during the initial[/align]
[align=left]telephone call or as soon thereafter as practicable, of the results of[/align]
[align=left]the firearms restrictions record search as follows:[/align]
[align=left]a. If the search indicates that the transferee is prohibited from[/align]
[align=left]possessing a firearm under s. 941.29, the department shall provide[/align]
[align=left]the firearms dealer with a unique nonapproval number. The[/align]
[align=left]department may not disclose to the firearms dealer the reason the[/align]
[align=left]transferee is prohibited from possessing a firearm under s. 941.29.[/align]
[align=left]b. If the search indicates that the transferee is not prohibited[/align]
[align=left]from possessing a firearm under s. 941.29, the department shall[/align]
[align=left]provide the firearms dealer with a unique approval number.[/align]
[align=left]c. If the search indicates a felony charge without a recorded[/align]
[align=left]disposition, the deadline under sub. (2) (d) is extended to the end[/align]
[align=left]of the 3rd complete working day commencing after the day on[/align]
[align=left]which the finding is made. The department shall notify the firearms[/align]
[align=left]dealer of the extension as soon as practicable. During the[/align]
[align=left]extended period, the department shall make every reasonable[/align]
[align=left]effort to determine the disposition of the charge and notify the firearms[/align]
[align=left]dealer of the results as soon as practicable.[/align]
[align=left](2h) Upon the request of any firearms dealer, the department[/align]
[align=left]of justice shall provide that firearms dealer with a unique firearms[/align]
[align=left]dealer identification number for use under this section.[/align]
[align=left](2i) The department shall charge a firearms dealer a $13 fee[/align]
[align=left]for each firearms restrictions record search that the firearms dealer[/align]
[align=left]requests under sub. (2) (c). The firearms dealer may collect the fee[/align]
[align=left]from the transferee. The department may refuse to conduct firearms[/align]
[align=left]restrictions record searches for any firearms dealer who fails[/align]
[align=left]to pay any fee under this subsection within 30 days after billing by[/align]
[align=left]the department.[/align]
[align=left](2j) A firearms dealer shall maintain the original record of all[/align]
[align=left]completed notification forms and a record of all confirmation[/align]
[align=left]numbers and corresponding approval or nonapproval numbers[/align]
[align=left]that he or she receives regarding firearms restrictions record[/align]
[align=left]searches under sub. (2g). The firearms dealer shall mail the duplicate[/align]
[align=left]copy of each completed notification form to the department[/align]
[align=left]of justice.[/align]
[align=left](2k) (ag) In this subsection:[/align]
[align=left]1. “Law enforcement agency of a physically adjacent state”[/align]
[align=left]has the meaning given in s. 175.46 (1) (b).[/align]
[align=left]2. “Wisconsin law enforcement agency” means a governmental[/align]
[align=left]unit of one or more persons employed by this state or a political[/align]
[align=left]subdivision of this state for the purpose of preventing and detecting[/align]
[align=left]crime and enforcing state laws or local ordinances, employees[/align]
[align=left]of which unit are authorized to make arrests for crimes while acting[/align]
[align=left]within the scope of their authority.[/align]
[align=left](ar) Except as provided in pars. (b) to (j) and as necessary to[/align]
[align=left]administer this section, the department of justice shall do all of the[/align]
[align=left]following:[/align]
[align=left]1. Deny access to any record kept under this section.[/align]
[align=left]2. Check each duplicate notification form received under sub.[/align]
[align=left](2j) against the information recorded by the department regarding[/align]
[align=left]the corresponding request for a firearms restrictions record search[/align]
[align=left]under sub. (2g). If the department previously provided a unique[/align]
[align=left]approval number regarding the request and nothing in the duplicate[/align]
[align=left]completed notification form indicates that the transferee is[/align]
[align=left]prohibited from possessing a firearm under s. 941.29, the department[/align]
[align=left]shall destroy all records regarding that firearms restrictions[/align]
[align=left]record search within 30 days after receiving the duplicate form.[/align]
[align=left](b) Notwithstanding par. (ar), the department of justice may[/align]
[align=left]maintain all of the following:[/align]
[align=left]1. Records necessary to comply with federal law.[/align]
[align=left]2. a. Except as provided in subd. 2. b., a log of dates of[/align]
[align=left]requests for firearms restrictions record searches under sub. (2g)[/align]
[align=left]together with confirmation numbers, unique approval and nonapproval[/align]
[align=left]numbers and firearms dealer identification numbers corresponding[/align]
[align=left]to those dates.[/align]
[align=left]b. Within 3 years after the department issues a unique[/align]
[align=left]approval number, the department shall destroy all corresponding[/align]
[align=left]information contained in the log under subd. 2. a.[/align]
[align=left]3. Records necessary to administer this section.[/align]
[align=left](c) Notwithstanding par. (ar), the department of justice shall[/align]
[align=left]provide access to any record under this section under all of the following[/align]
[align=left]circumstances:[/align]
[align=left]1. The department of justice receives a record request that is[/align]
[align=left]submitted in writing by a Wisconsin law enforcement agency.[/align]
[align=left]2. The request submitted under subd. 1. appears on the Wisconsin[/align]
[align=left]law enforcement agency’s letterhead and contains all of the[/align]
[align=left]following:[/align]
[align=left]a. A statement that the Wisconsin law enforcement agency is[/align]
[align=left]conducting an investigation of a crime in which a handgun was[/align]
[align=left]used or was attempted to be used or was unlawfully possessed.[/align]
[align=left]b. A statement by a division commander or higher authority[/align]
[align=left]within the Wisconsin law enforcement agency that he or she has[/align]
[align=left]a reasonable suspicion that the person who is the subject of the[/align]
[align=left]information request has obtained or is attempting to obtain a handgun.[/align]
[align=left]c. The signature of a division commander or higher authority[/align]
[align=left]within the Wisconsin law enforcement agency.[/align]
[align=left](d) Whenever a Wisconsin law enforcement agency makes a[/align]
[align=left]request for information under par. (c), the agency shall report to[/align]
[align=left]the subject of the information request the fact that a request has[/align]
[align=left]been made and the name of the Wisconsin law enforcement[/align]
[align=left]agency that made the request. The agency shall make the report[/align]
[align=left]whenever the earliest of the following occurs:[/align]
[align=left]1. The person who is the subject of the information request[/align]
[align=left]under par. (c) 2. b. is no longer material to the investigation conducted[/align]
[align=left]under par. (c) 2. a.[/align]
[align=left]2. The Wisconsin law enforcement agency has completed its[/align]
[align=left]investigation under par. (c) 2. a.[/align]
[align=left]3. One year after the date that the Wisconsin law enforcement[/align]
[align=left]agency made the request under par. (c).[/align]
[align=left](e) A Wisconsin law enforcement agency may disclose information[/align]
[align=left]that is provided by the department of justice under par. (c)[/align]
[align=left]to another law enforcement agency. If there is a request for information[/align]
[align=left]from a requester other than a law enforcement agency, the[/align]
[align=left]Wisconsin law enforcement agency shall not disclose information[/align]
[align=left]to the requester that is provided by the department of justice under[/align]
[align=left]par. (c). If there is a request by a requester other than a law[/align]
[align=left]enforcement agency to copy or inspect any record of the Wisconsin[/align]
[align=left]law enforcement agency that contains that information, the[/align]
[align=left]agency, acting under s. 19.36 (6), shall delete any portion of the[/align]
[align=left]record that relates to that information before release.[/align]
[align=left](f) A Wisconsin law enforcement agency that is provided[/align]
[align=left]access to a record under par. (c) shall destroy all corresponding[/align]
[align=left]information contained in the record when the earliest of the following[/align]
[align=left]occurs:[/align]
[align=left]1. The person who is the subject of the information request[/align]
[align=left]under par. (c) 2. b. is no longer material to the investigation conducted[/align]
[align=left]under par. (c) 2. a.[/align]
[align=left]2. The Wisconsin law enforcement agency has completed its[/align]
[align=left]investigation under par. (c) 2. a.[/align]
[align=left]3. One year after the date the Wisconsin law enforcement[/align]
[align=left]agency made the request under par. (c).[/align]
[align=left](g) If a search conducted under sub. (2g) indicates that the[/align]
[align=left]transferee is prohibited from possessing a firearm under s. 941.29,[/align]
[align=left]the attorney general or his or her designee may disclose to a law[/align]
[align=left]enforcement agency that the transferee has attempted to obtain a[/align]
[align=left]handgun.[/align]
[align=left](h) If a search conducted under sub. (2g) indicates a felony[/align]
[align=left]charge without a recorded disposition and the attorney general or[/align]
[align=left]his or her designee has reasonable grounds to believe the transferee[/align]
[align=left]may pose a danger to himself, herself or another, the attorney[/align]
[align=left]general or his or her designee may disclose to a law enforcement[/align]
[align=left]agency that the transferee has obtained or has attempted to obtain[/align]
[align=left]a handgun.[/align]
[align=left](i) The department of justice may not charge a fee for any services[/align]
[align=left]that the department provides under pars. (c) to (j).[/align]
[align=left](j) If a law enforcement agency of a physically adjacent state[/align]
[align=left]makes a request under par. (c), the department shall comply with[/align]
[align=left]the request under all of the following circumstances:[/align]
[align=left]1. The law enforcement agency of the physically adjacent[/align]
[align=left]state agrees to comply with all the requirements under this subsection.[/align]
[align=left]2. The physically adjacent state allows Wisconsin law[/align]
[align=left]enforcement agencies similar or greater access to similar information[/align]
[align=left]from that physically adjacent state.[/align]
[align=left](2L) The department of justice shall promulgate rules providing[/align]
[align=left]for the review of nonapprovals under sub. (2g) (c) 4. a. Any[/align]
[align=left]person who is denied the right to purchase a handgun because the[/align]
[align=left]firearms dealer received a nonapproval number under sub. (2g) (c)[/align]
[align=left]4. a. may request a firearms restrictions record search review[/align]
[align=left]under those rules. If the person disagrees with the results of that[/align]
[align=left]review, the person may file an appeal under rules promulgated by[/align]
[align=left]the department.[/align]
[align=left](2t) This section does not apply to any of the following:[/align]
[align=left](a) Transfers of any handgun classified as an antique by regulations[/align]
[align=left]of the U.S. department of the treasury.[/align]
[align=left](b) Transfers of any handgun between firearms dealers or[/align]
[align=left]between wholesalers and dealers.[/align]
[align=left](c) Transfers of any handgun to law enforcement or armed services[/align]
[align=left]agencies.[/align]
[align=left](3) Any person who intentionally violates sub. (2), (2e), (2f)[/align]
[align=left]or (2j) shall be fined not less than $500 nor more than $10,000 and[/align]
[align=left]may be imprisoned for not more than 9 months.[/align]
[align=left]History: 1975 c. 167; 1991 a. 11; 1993 a. 16, 195, 196; 1995 a. 71, 77, 159, 306;[/align]
[align=left]2005 a. 155, 344; 2009 a. 28.[/align]
[align=left]Cross Reference: See also ch. Jus 10, Wis. adm. code.[/align]
[align=left]175.37 Warning whenever transferring a firearm.[/align]
[align=left](1) Upon the retail commercial sale or retail commercial transfer[/align]
[align=left]of any firearm, the seller or transferor shall provide to the buyer[/align]
[align=left]or transferee the following written warning in block letters not less[/align]
[align=left]than one−fourth inch in height: “IF YOU LEAVE A LOADED[/align]
[align=left]FIREARM WITHIN THE REACH OR EASY ACCESS OF A[/align]
[align=left]CHILD YOU MAY BE FINED OR IMPRISONED OR BOTH IF[/align]
[align=left]THE CHILD IMPROPERLY DISCHARGES, POSSESSES OR[/align]
[align=left]EXHIBITS THE FIREARM.”[/align]
[align=left](2) Any person who violates sub. (1) may be fined not more[/align]
than $500 or imprisoned for not more than 30 days or bot

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Lammie wrote:

[align=left]175.30 Purchase of firearms in contiguous states permitted.[/align]

[align=left]It is lawful for a resident of this state or a corporation or[/align]

[align=left]other business entity maintaining a place of business in this state[/align]

[align=left]to purchase or otherwise obtain a rifle or shotgun in a state contiguous[/align]

[align=left]to this state if the transfer complies with federal law and the[/align]

[align=left]laws of both states.[/align]

[align=left]History: 1971 c. 39.[/align]

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Is there any Wisconsin state statute banning long gun purchases by residents in states outside of the contiguous states? If not, this section of law is really unnecessary since federal law now allows long gun purchases from dealers in any state.

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I know of no state statute that prohibits long gun purchases from any of the other states. I think the word contiguous was a bad choice of words. I think it was used to distinguish long gun purchases from handgun purchases. If interpreted literally it would rule that long guns purchased by Wisconsin residents could only be purchased in Minnesota, Iowa, Michigan, and Illinois. That would be stupid but then again all Wisconsin's firearm laws are stupid. While I was a dealer I acted as middleman dealer for a number of out-of-state handgun purchases but in 25 years didn't have any involving long guns. That may be a coincidence but seems strange that in that many years I wouldn't have been involved in at least one transfer. I plan to call the DoJ on Monday to see if I can get an answer. I'll post the answer.

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:shock: A friend of mine just got the same "delay" message on a NICS check when he filled out the purchase paperwork for a M1 Garand from the CMP. This "delay" never went away and finally a week or so ago the CMP emailed him and informed him they could not sell him a firearm due to this "delay". The "delay" time limit for the CMP in this case was 14 days and they said after 14 days the FBI had not changed his status. It gets better....the FBI sent him a Voluntary Appeal Form out of the blue. Why would the FBI send him this paperwork unless they have indeed denied his purchase? This person I have known for about 11 years and has had nothing more than a traffic ticket in his life (that I know of) and he owns quite a few firearms that he purchased over the course of his life.

He also applied for a concealed carry permit (he lives in Florida) and it too has been "delayed". So, something is going on and I think it stinks. I will update this information as I get it.

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rcawdor57 wrote:

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That sounds more like a decline than a delay, A long gun can legally be transferred to the purchaser if after 72 hours (3 working days) nodecision was received by the FFL dealer.
But, if the NICS later declines this person, he will most likely have BATFE show up at his house (armored & armed) to collect that recently transferred gun, and any others he is in possession of.

My local dealer will not transfer anything to anyone until a decisive answer is received, It sucks for me becuase I am always delayed at least 5-7 days on every purchase.

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You would be best served buying your guns now because the legalistic impediments will only become worse in the NRA's Obamination.

I have some guns that will just have to be adequate because I have no intention to subjecting myself to petty tyrants. SCROOM If the SHTF then I'll use a little one to get a big one.

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I purchased a shotgun and a handgun this year. The shotgun approval(and rifle purchases in the past), took about 30 seconds.

The handgun purchase was delayed, I ended up having to wait an extra day. I don't know what databases the state uses that the feds don't.
I have a very common name and the state hotline was busy, according to the dealer.
California just passed a law that requires biometric data to be electronically stored on databases for ammunition purchases. I wonder how long it will take them to demand this for all firearms purchases?

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Unfortunately as this occurred Friday morning I will need to wait until Wednesday morning to call again due to the 3 business day deal.

Don't know if I will get an answer by then, or if at that point I will be able to take a more proactive position.

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bigdaddy1 wrote:

Unfortunately as this occurred Friday morning I will need to wait until Wednesday morning to call again due to the 3 business day deal.

Don't know if I will get an answer by then, or if at that point I will be able to take a more proactive position.

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I never have issues buying guns, I know a FFL so I buy all my guns legally from him.
doug thinks , when the SHTF he's gonna use his .45 to obtain a big gun... I will put my money on the big guy with the scoped AR, you & that silly 3 wheeled bike of yours will be a pile of twisted metal when you get ran off the road, by mad max.:what:

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'Mad Max' is my Fire Chief, the happiest man on the Island, and the local piano tuner (son of 2P2 Aviation Director). He and his dad own, between them, about FORTY John Deeres. I would guess that he might give me an AK. Not everyone thinks me an asshole or fool. You, on the other hand, are evidently merely the 'son of a gun' and a small caliber one at that. maybe a one pound rectum loader.

I'll let you and the Arrant_Knight_Errant try to out do each other at struttin' and stylin'. FOAD

As to a "pile of twisted metal", they haven't managed to get me yet and I have well over 50,000 miles on bikes and my trike. Be sure, y'all, to retire while you're young enough to enjoy it.