Several days ago I told Mr. Jeff's that he ran me off, well I stepped back took another look at his comments:
1) How long do we have to put up with the "barney fifes" before we say enough is enough
2) The police are not your brother or your friend, there job is to charge you with crimes and they are trained in how to violate your rights( you are wrong with this statement)
And i looked at kimberguy's vido with the JPD, and the harassing that is going on in Jackson, is wrong and BS!! But look at it from a different aspect, and that is, how MIOC is promoting itself. If you want oc'ing to be accepted by the LEO community and the public community, you have to be proactive and change the perspective of it and change the attitude of the above statements.
If you the MIOC want to be accepted by LEO community and the public, then start with holding a "summit" or conference with the top cops of each county until you get them all. Sit down with the top cops of each Dept. and the PA's and invite the director of the MSP academy along with the other police academy's EDUCATE THEM then hold a public forum, invite the news media the street cops,EDUCATE THEM
You say "we did this"...well do it again, BECAUSE WALKING AROUND TOWN SHOWING A GUN ON YOUR HIP IS'NT CUTTING IT!!! It was said several times, it "freaks people out"I did not know you existed until i came across the web site. MIOC held a picnic in the flint area a couple years back..I've worked in flint for almost 10 yrs. never heard of MIOC WHY??? NO PR WORK IS BEING DONE!!!
All you are doing is putting a stick in the bee hive and irritating the hive,STOP DOING THAT!!!EDUCATE, EDUCATE, EDUCATE, PROMOTE, PROMOTE, PROMOTE!!!!!!!
why not use the wash, rinse ,and repeat approach.
Wash( sit down hold a summit and train the top cops so they can train the work force)
Rinse (hold a public forum, with the media coverage, )
Repeat (until it starts to work)
Mr. Jeffs said:We did officially by snail mail send out the information to all 83 county sheriffs. What they do with it I can't control. I have also sent the information to many major PD's in the state.Many smaller PD's may not have access to the information, but I think the word around andmost PD's are aware of OC( needs to be done agian??)
You can look at it another way, The President of the UNITED STATES has to "sell the American public his policy so we stand behind him...right??!! So sell OPEN CARRY!! you just can't rely on sending out LEO packets and hopingit gets around by word ofmouth, YOU HAVE TO SELL IT!!!!
This just my view of a great movement and of MIOC but just step back for a minute and take another look at how you can get it out there and "why oc is not accepted by LEO's and the public".
I know that some Depts have somebad apples in them, well, lets work to turn them around.
