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    That's a pretty darn good article, one which I would have never imaged being in Seventeen of all places. And all the youngns have their trigger fingers properly indexed! Bravo!

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    Mostly good article, some of those statistics are encouraging about number of kids that have shot or used guns.



    P.S. Why were you reading 17? LOL
    I am not anti Cop I am just pro Citizen.

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    Wow.

    I've always suspected the readership of Seventeen were more likely to be 14 than 19, so the survey numbers surprise me.

    It's good to see, though.

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    sudden valley gunner wrote:
    Mostly good article, some of those statistics are encouraging about number of kids that have shot or used guns.



    P.S. Why were you reading 17? LOL
    +1
    Don't confuse me with the facts, I have my emotions!

    I guess that's the difference between no crime and "stopping" a crime in progress. I prefer no crime.

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    sudden valley gunner wrote:
    Mostly good article, some of those statistics are encouraging about number of kids that have shot or used guns.



    P.S. Why were you reading 17? LOL

    encouraging, but not good enough.
    let's take that from 45% to 75% this year. get your friends on board.

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    Did you all notice in the "What you think" insert, that both girls are terribly misinformed in their opinions?

    The pro-gun girl thinks she will be able to "disarm a shooter by shooting them in the arm." She been watching to much TV, right?

    The anti-gun girl parrots the usual Brady Bunch rhetoric. Doesn't know how to think for herself.

    Over all, though, it's an encouraging article.

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    Task Force 16 wrote:
    Did you all notice in the "What you think" insert, that both girls are terribly misinformed in their opinions?

    The pro-gun girl thinks she will be able to "disarm a shooter by shooting them in the arm." She been watching to much TV, right?
    Probably, instead of making a subtle reference to some shootings where the weapon-holding hand of the assailant is hit instead of COM. One of those happened in San Diego a few years back. BG waved a knife, cop shot him in the hand.

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    Nice trigger finger control.

    Very nice.

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    Well, I did my part this weekend. I went to a friends farm to eat fajitas and refine her shooting. There were 6 women there including a 19 year old that had never fired a gun. They all shot and enjoyed themselves a great deal. All but one wants to get a pistol, and most want a CHL also. Even though the 19 yr old didn't want to shoot anymore, she was pleased that she outshot her equally inexperienced boyfriend, and came a way with a positive feeling about the whole thing.



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    Task Force 16 wrote:
    Did you all notice in the "What you think" insert, that both girls are terribly misinformed in their opinions?

    The pro-gun girl thinks she will be able to "disarm a shooter by shooting them in the arm." She been watching to much TV, right?

    The anti-gun girl parrots the usual Brady Bunch rhetoric. Doesn't know how to think for herself.

    Over all, though, it's an encouraging article.
    I feel in real life encounter that thinking goes out the window she is going to be pointing and shooting at the perp as many times as possible.
    I am not anti Cop I am just pro Citizen.

    U.S. v. Minker, 350 US 179, at page 187
    "Because of what appears to be a lawful command on the surface, many citizens, because
    of their respect for what only appears to be a law, are cunningly coerced into waiving their
    rights, due to ignorance." (Paraphrased)

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    sudden valley gunner wrote:
    Task Force 16 wrote:
    Did you all notice in the "What you think" insert, that both girls are terribly misinformed in their opinions?

    The pro-gun girl thinks she will be able to "disarm a shooter by shooting them in the arm." She been watching to much TV, right?

    The anti-gun girl parrots the usual Brady Bunch rhetoric. Doesn't know how to think for herself.

    Over all, though, it's an encouraging article.
    I feel in real life encounter that thinking goes out the window she is going to be pointing and shooting at the perp as many times as possible.
    It's amazing what Self-Preservation will make a person do to stay alive. A lot of politics and rhetoric go flying out the window.

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    darthmord wrote:
    sudden valley gunner wrote:
    Task Force 16 wrote:
    Did you all notice in the "What you think" insert, that both girls are terribly misinformed in their opinions?

    The pro-gun girl thinks she will be able to "disarm a shooter by shooting them in the arm." She been watching to much TV, right?

    The anti-gun girl parrots the usual Brady Bunch rhetoric. Doesn't know how to think for herself.

    Over all, though, it's an encouraging article.
    I feel in real life encounter that thinking goes out the window she is going to be pointing and shooting at the perp as many times as possible.
    It's amazing what Self-Preservation will make a person do to stay alive. A lot of politics and rhetoric go flying out the window.
    Yep even from trained professionals.
    I am not anti Cop I am just pro Citizen.

    U.S. v. Minker, 350 US 179, at page 187
    "Because of what appears to be a lawful command on the surface, many citizens, because
    of their respect for what only appears to be a law, are cunningly coerced into waiving their
    rights, due to ignorance." (Paraphrased)

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    EVERYONE MISSED THE BIGGEST PROBLEM HERE

    Haw can 19 year old cutie SARAH afford a $1,200 Five-seveN ?!?!?!?!?!

    At least they didn't call it a cop killer.
    illegal ≠ immoral legal ≠ moral
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    simmonsjoe wrote:
    EVERYONE MISSED THE BIGGEST PROBLEM HERE

    Haw can 19 year old cutie SARAH afford a $1,200 Five-seveN ?!?!?!?!?!

    At least they didn't call it a cop killer.
    LOL I missed that ID!

    Show me a (non-squirt, rubber-band, stun, BB) gun that cannot be used to kill a cop and I'll show you a unicorn.

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    A Pink Pistol?

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    McX wrote:
    A Pink Pistol?
    Sure, why not? It's not any less useful,costs no more to make than any other color, and many women like it. Women are willing to spend good money on something that they want, especially if it makes it more "theirs" (just look at clothing), and so the smartmanufacturers are going to supply it.

    I'm sure that I'll be getting one for each ofmy daughters whenthe time comes.

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    Gordie wrote:
    McX wrote:
    A Pink Pistol?
    Sure, why not? It's not any less useful,costs no more to make than any other color, and many women like it. Women are willing to spend good money on something that they want, especially if it makes it more "theirs" (just look at clothing), and so the smartmanufacturers are going to supply it.

    I'm sure that I'll be getting one for each ofmy daughters whenthe time comes.
    Female camo.

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    simmonsjoe wrote:
    Haw can 19 year old cutie SARAH afford a $1,200 Five-seveN ?!?!?!?!?!
    I can tell by this statement you aren't a parent.

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    Many pro-gun organizations sponsor range days to introduce new shooters to a variety of firearms (guns are loaned to the group by members).

    Maybe it is an outdoor range that has rental guns?


    A friend of mine teaches a monthly Basic Intro to firearms with a range day included, at least once every few months I'd head out with him and provide a variety of firearms for people to shoot.
    The majority of women preferred the FN 5.7, FS 1911 and Glock 20, go figure.
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    I'm interested in seeing the readers' feedback on this article. How many blast the magazine versus how many applaud it for bringing this to light.

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    I think 17 Mag did a good job. They didn't use any slant to state both sides, but as aforementioned the anti side can't think for herself and I'm wondering where they got the stats of "276" killed or wounded every day". But my daughters know how to shoot and the youngest has her own pistol, the eldest is in the process of determining which one she likes best (even tho' her old Dad has told her what he thinks). The youngest I have no doubt would go for Center Mass, the eldest has a soft heart, and I've told her on numerous occasions if she can't kill, don't buy nor carry.
    But as I said I think all in all 17 Magazine did a decent job with the article.
    ‘‘Laws that forbid the carrying of arms... disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes... Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man.’’ Thomas Jefferson

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    Task Force 16 wrote:
    Did you all notice in the "What you think" insert, that both girls are terribly misinformed in their opinions?

    The pro-gun girl thinks she will be able to "disarm a shooter by shooting them in the arm." She been watching to much TV, right?

    The anti-gun girl parrots the usual Brady Bunch rhetoric. Doesn't know how to think for herself.

    Over all, though, it's an encouraging article.
    Well after all these are (allegedly) teenaged females :quirky Of course their responses are going to be somewhat jejune.

    However, if a hair-pulling eye scratching girl-fight starts between the two of them, dollars to donuts the Brady Girl wil be the one who starts it. After all, the Bradyites are only against GUN violence.


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