wolfeinstein
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Last night I decided to do some UOC in my local Aliso Viejo Town center Barnes and Nobles!
First I went to Lowes and then to the bookstore.
I was walking around looking for a couple specific books to buy, the bookstore was pretty busy and I had many people checking out my(evil doer ) so finally I found one of the books I wanted to buy (2009 California penal code) so I sat down on the ground and started to reading.
I was sitting by a table which had books on top, people walking by could not the my piece because it was half was hidden by the table, after about 5-10 min of reading I got this weird feeling so from time to time I peeked up. Soon my gut was right, I saw people coming toward me both sides with dark pants on so I knew what was coming.(LEO)
They came from both sides one that spoke to me had he's hand on his gun half was drawn asked me to stand up and put he's hand under my arm helped me up( not that I needed help) First thing I said that it is on UOC he said OK but I need to check the gun!
He took the gun pat me down, asked me for my ID I said no I won't give it to you he found it in my pocket and took the ID out, cuffed me,i asked why am I being arrested he replied I'm only being detained and took me out to the police car and put me inside.
I kept saying that I don't consent to an ID check and I also said that you can only do a 12031 check on my gun but they replied that I could be a criminal and they need to make sure it is not loaded.
Almost forgot that I had my empty mag inside the gun and I didn't have any bullets on me because I was out shooting the day before.
While I was sitting in the back of the Police cruiser they ran the serial number on my gun once they found nothing (about 5 min inside the car) he let me out uncuffed me and said if I could come to the side and talk I replied firmly that I won't talk to him.
he than put the gun back and I went back to Barnes and Nobles.
But before I was asking for business cards which they won't give so I went back for pen and paper and got all the 3 cops' names who were involved!
you guys should have seen the whole Bookstore was watching me getting taken out cuffed but I knew I'll be back in a matter of minutes, once I got uncuffed and went back with my (evil doer) jaws dropped!
So I was reading they for another 30 min after the incident and walked out to go home there was a security guy outside pretty cool older guy asked me what happened I explained it to him he was kind of happy for me I could tell while I was standing there talking to him a cop drove by and stopped, was walking toward us I told him that they already checked it he said I KNOW!
He was the sergeant their supervisor he was unbelievably nice and understanding he said he informed them about the UOC and will talk about it more, he asked me what my mission was, asked for a pamphlet and just chatted for 5 - 10 min and I asked him if I come back will they handle it differently next time he said yes and he will talk to them.
What do you guys think I could or should do?
I know they violated many of my rights especially running my serial number and detained me and cuff me!
Best thing is that i had my recorder running!
http://www.ziddu.com/download/7550629/Illegallydetainedcuffedandhadmyserialrunbycops.wav.html
Last night I decided to do some UOC in my local Aliso Viejo Town center Barnes and Nobles!
First I went to Lowes and then to the bookstore.
I was walking around looking for a couple specific books to buy, the bookstore was pretty busy and I had many people checking out my(evil doer ) so finally I found one of the books I wanted to buy (2009 California penal code) so I sat down on the ground and started to reading.
I was sitting by a table which had books on top, people walking by could not the my piece because it was half was hidden by the table, after about 5-10 min of reading I got this weird feeling so from time to time I peeked up. Soon my gut was right, I saw people coming toward me both sides with dark pants on so I knew what was coming.(LEO)
They came from both sides one that spoke to me had he's hand on his gun half was drawn asked me to stand up and put he's hand under my arm helped me up( not that I needed help) First thing I said that it is on UOC he said OK but I need to check the gun!
He took the gun pat me down, asked me for my ID I said no I won't give it to you he found it in my pocket and took the ID out, cuffed me,i asked why am I being arrested he replied I'm only being detained and took me out to the police car and put me inside.
I kept saying that I don't consent to an ID check and I also said that you can only do a 12031 check on my gun but they replied that I could be a criminal and they need to make sure it is not loaded.
Almost forgot that I had my empty mag inside the gun and I didn't have any bullets on me because I was out shooting the day before.
While I was sitting in the back of the Police cruiser they ran the serial number on my gun once they found nothing (about 5 min inside the car) he let me out uncuffed me and said if I could come to the side and talk I replied firmly that I won't talk to him.
he than put the gun back and I went back to Barnes and Nobles.
But before I was asking for business cards which they won't give so I went back for pen and paper and got all the 3 cops' names who were involved!
you guys should have seen the whole Bookstore was watching me getting taken out cuffed but I knew I'll be back in a matter of minutes, once I got uncuffed and went back with my (evil doer) jaws dropped!
So I was reading they for another 30 min after the incident and walked out to go home there was a security guy outside pretty cool older guy asked me what happened I explained it to him he was kind of happy for me I could tell while I was standing there talking to him a cop drove by and stopped, was walking toward us I told him that they already checked it he said I KNOW!
He was the sergeant their supervisor he was unbelievably nice and understanding he said he informed them about the UOC and will talk about it more, he asked me what my mission was, asked for a pamphlet and just chatted for 5 - 10 min and I asked him if I come back will they handle it differently next time he said yes and he will talk to them.
What do you guys think I could or should do?
I know they violated many of my rights especially running my serial number and detained me and cuff me!
Best thing is that i had my recorder running!
http://www.ziddu.com/download/7550629/Illegallydetainedcuffedandhadmyserialrunbycops.wav.html