LuvmyXD9 wrote:
ixtow wrote:
packinprofessor wrote:
ixtow wrote:
packinprofessor wrote:
...people presume that liberalism and education are mutually inclusive, when they in fact are not.
I don't have a degree specifically because extreme leftism and hate of America are the exclusive subjects taught in every college classroom I have ever been in. Actual academics are rare, and openly frowned upon, in favor of constant propaganda for the far left.
Maybe it's just where I live. But I have no respect for people with degrees that expect it to mean anything other than that they are Socialists. Educated, I've never seen.
I would have to respectfully disagree. While your generalization is 99% true, it is not true all the time. I just had lunch this afternoon with another colleague who is a gun fanatic and also an academic. Don't lump all of us together.
It's still a lot of time and money to invest in something that is only 1% or less of what it is advertised to be.
Sadly, 'higher education' has become nothing more than a convenient way for Leftists to inflict their new breed of nepotism. You have to have their programming, and piece of paper saying you've been programmed, or no job for you! Skill, knowledge, experience, intelligence, etc... All irrelevant.
"Are you a member of the Far Left Club?" That's all it is. Even for the 1%; I can Google more than that. I think it is an incredible insult to legitimately worthwhile people, and the occasional earnest educator (which you presumably are).
Um.
Every single wealthy person I know of is college educated. The extra wealthy tend to be of republican minded, but still have a degree. Your chances of success in life are severely hindered if you do not pursue higher learning. It is rather simple to play along and ignore "leftist" remarks and ideals in a classroom setting. Get your degree and make your own impression on the planet.
I mean more power to ya if you wanna make 30K/year for the rest of your life, but that wouldn't sit well with me. At all.
Hate to contribute to the derailing of this thread any further (I do fully support what the OP is working to accomplish here, especially since I've worked for the hell that is UoP before...) but I call BS on your little jab, and herd mentality regarding 'higher education.'
To say that one MUST have a degree to get anywhere in life is 100% BS. Always has been, always will be. Kids are pressured to get 'good grades' in high school, or they wont get into an awesome ubercollege. Then they're pressured to excel at that (and by that, I don't mean excel at UNDERSTANDING and COMPREHENSION, but just at grades again.)
I have no degree, and no plans to get one. I got most of my education from the public school system in Harrisburg Pennsylvania (k-10th), spent one year in the PV school district, dropped out, got my GED at 16. I had landed a 30k/yr job just a couple weeks after turning 18 working for another local school district with nothing more than a few technology classes here and there, and a lot of self-taught effort. Last year I grossed over 70k. Again, still no degree.
I have friends who INSIST that 'education is where its at' and to an extent, I will always agree that knowledge is power. Higher education, unfortunately, does not do anything to instill knowledge, but instead works to burden young and ignorant students with massive loan debt, keep them out of the real workforce (which skews unemployment numbers since students usually don't factor into those numbers) and indoctrinates students.
My friends can keep on blowing money they don't have on classes they don't understand, just to get that degree. I'll just keep on working my ass off like I have all my life and get places based on how good I am at what I do instead of basing it on which diploma mill I made a substantial donation to.
In short, PLEASE stop trying to perpetuate the myth that one can't do @#$% in life without a degree. It's insulting to those of us with an IQ over 60. Sorry for the rant, but this subject is one of my biggest pet peeves with modern society.