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    It would seem that some people are wishing for an insurection, a bloody battle of good versus evil. I dont know why I have this feeling, what do you think



    Let me make myself clear here, I do NOT want a civil war, civil unrest or anything else that would cause bloodshed of Americans. I read some of the posts here and it scares me that some are
    What part of "shall not be infringed" don't you understand?

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    bigdaddy1 wrote:
    It would seem that some people are wishing for an insurection, a bloody battle of good versus evil. I dont know why I have this feeling, what do you think
    FAIL: http://opencarry.mywowbb.com/forum4/31065.html

    Plus this is off topic. Please take it somewhere else.

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    Statesman wrote:
    bigdaddy1 wrote:
    It would seem that some people are wishing for an insurection, a bloody battle of good versus evil. I dont know why I have this feeling, what do you think
    FAIL: http://opencarry.mywowbb.com/forum4/31065.html

    Plus this is off topic. Please take it somewhere else.
    Apparently, this forum is unmoderated which encourages this type of nonsensical unproductive talk....

    http://opencarry.mywowbb.com/forum65/34715.html

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    Statesman wrote:
    bigdaddy1 wrote:
    It would seem that some people are wishing for an insurection, a bloody battle of good versus evil. I dont know why I have this feeling, what do you think
    FAIL: http://opencarry.mywowbb.com/forum4/31065.html

    Plus this is off topic. Please take it somewhere else.
    Use this area for discussions that are somewhat off-topic or that do not fit anywhere else. Topics should still be related to the focus of the forum and all other rules of behavior still apply here.

    I was all set to make a snyde comment, but I didnt want to stoop...
    What part of "shall not be infringed" don't you understand?

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    bigdaddy1 wrote:
    Statesman wrote:
    bigdaddy1 wrote:
    It would seem that some people are wishing for an insurection, a bloody battle of good versus evil. I dont know why I have this feeling, what do you think
    FAIL: http://opencarry.mywowbb.com/forum4/31065.html

    Plus this is off topic. Please take it somewhere else.
    Use this area for discussions that are somewhat off-topic or that do not fit anywhere else. Topics should still be related to the focus of the forum and all other rules of behavior still apply here.

    I was all set to make a snyde comment, but I didnt want to stoop...
    Keywords here are "focus of the forum", which is open carry.

    Somewhat off-topic means it's still related to open carry, somewhat. All other forums are focused on Open Carry material.

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    Statesman wrote:
    Somewhat off-topic means it's still related to open carry, somewhat. All other forums are focused on Open Carry material.
    The Wisconsin forum has been directed to accept the antithesis of Open Carry as in-focus. We all may have regarded the opposite of OC as no-Carry but not so for the Wisconsin forum where permitted concealed carry must be tolerated.

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    Statesman wrote:
    FAIL: http://opencarry.mywowbb.com/forum4/31065.html

    Plus this is off topic. Please take it somewhere else.
    Heres a post you may find familiar

    http://opencarry.mywowbb.com/forum65/34715.html

    or

    http://opencarry.mywowbb.com/forum65/34701.html

    and

    http://opencarry.mywowbb.com/forum65/34619.html

    To name a few.

    Some of these posts are a bit extreme. If it makes you feel any better I am carrying while typing.
    What part of "shall not be infringed" don't you understand?

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    You are feeling that way because your tinfoil hat has gone askew and isallowing the secret radio signals from the satellites to creep in and put ideas in your head. Please readjust your hat and reboot.

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    Oh, thats a good one Goober!


    What part of "shall not be infringed" don't you understand?

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    bigdaddy1 wrote:
    It would seem that some people are wishing for an insurection, a bloody battle of good versus evil. I dont know why I have this feeling, what do you think
    I don't think anyone wishes for such a thing, as once you embark on such a mission there is no turning back & unless you are victorious your get at least life in prison. But maybe, just maybe enough of the sheep have woken up to the realities of the
    world we find ourselves living in & are begining to decide that the liberties this nation once had , might be worth taking back. The Taxation of the American people is out of control & they want to add new taxes ( fee's ) every year. Someday our paychecks will go directly to uncle Sam, will the American people wait that long ? Our founding fathers didn't. No one want's civil war, rebellion or a revolution ....but, sooner or later it will once again be needed, sooner would be better.

    If you think about it, this has everything to do with OC. The right to keep and bear arms, says that we can OC, concealed carry, carry a long gun, etc where ever we want. YET, CAN WE ????? NO, WE CAN'T !!!. we fight for the right to OC , we are fighting even harder to Concealed carry. BUT, THESE RIGHT WERE PUT ON PAPER 230 plus years ago.. WE HAVE LOST OUR RIGHTS & we are losing even more rights as time goes by. how many more are you all willing to keep losing ? please let me know, ok.
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    I certanly dont want a war on our soil either. Just reading some of these posts it would seem that a few are ready to throw down.
    What part of "shall not be infringed" don't you understand?

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    bigdaddy1 wrote:
    Statesman wrote:
    FAIL: http://opencarry.mywowbb.com/forum4/31065.html

    Plus this is off topic. Please take it somewhere else.
    Heres a post you may find familiar

    http://opencarry.mywowbb.com/forum65/34715.html

    or

    http://opencarry.mywowbb.com/forum65/34701.html

    and

    http://opencarry.mywowbb.com/forum65/34619.html

    To name a few.

    Some of these posts are a bit extreme. If it makes you feel any better I am carrying while typing.
    Duly noted, sir. However there's no rule against multiple alleged provocateurs invading forums at similar times, trying to cause strife and paranoia amongst the locals, not that it's the case here.

    To be honest, I haven't always posted on topic either, but I've learned since then to try to keep it on topic.

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    I've noticed alot of tension. You can see and feel it everywhere. I can't tell realy what it is; Change undelivered? Economic crisis hitting home? Had enough mentality? It's getting the feeling something is going to give, something is going to change. Let's just hope it's for the good, and peaceful.

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    IF a civil war happens.... it will only happen in the case of complete societal collapse... like if we go into an extended period of hyperinflation that ruins the value of US currency and causes people to lose all value of their savings and become instant paupers.

    Once that happens, your only hope will be to hunker down for the initial panic.... and then join up with your neighbors and others of like mind to protect your small patch of land... the war will be between those who want to completely change the country into something extra-constitutional and those who want to restore the Republic. But no war will happen unless that collapse happens.

    The real scary thing is that I see the government printing money, and ruining this economy that might actually make these dire consequences come to pass... like they WANT this to happen...

    Me, I am as prepared as I can be without being over prepared. I don't have a fallout shelter nor do I have hundreds of thousands of rounds of ammo etc etc... What I have is enough emergency food and water for around 6 adults to last around 6 months... and then some ammo, weapons and emergency power comprised of 400 watt wind turbine and 800 watts of solar power plus a 38kWh deep cycle battery bank. All in the basement, but ready to deploy if needed (not already installed because I'm in a Condo).

    There is an underlying current out there that is kind of scary... a powder keg ready to blow.... and a hidden fuse that no one can see... and the government is out there with a book of matches just randomly flinging lit ones around.

    The only way hyperinflation WON'T happen is if the Fed can pull around 2.2 trillion dollars out of the economy within the next 12 months... but that would require interest rates to be raised to the level they were in the Carter years or higher. Either way, this economy is in for a much worse drop than we have already experienced and.... well, the proverbialexcrement will hit the fan.
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    Ive heard a (ahem) "prediction" from a (ahem) "credible source" that its not IF, but WHEN. nObamas in cabal with the UNSC (UN Security Council) about small arms disarmament, and Im told WHEN it starts here (and am told it will) then the Fed plans to start in the NorthEast and start attempting to disarm people, even if it means shutting off water and electricity to freeze people out.

    Im told (ahem) that its just a matter of 'who jumps first.'

    (ahem)

    hmmm.

    Lose-lose situation?

    The DoD is apparently amassing a 400,000 or so 'para-military' force of Gubmint workers along with threatening those who will not voulentarily go along to be shoved off into dead end jobs (DoD directive 140410) to, I assume, try to circumvent Posse Comitatus (spelling?). The guise is that they will be deployed for GWOT but didnt nObama say that was over?

    I havent met anyone in the past 6 months that doesnt think its coming.

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    Ive heard a (ahem) "prediction" from a (ahem) "credible source" that its not IF, but WHEN. nObamas in cabal with the UNSC (UN Security Council) about small arms disarmament, and Im told WHEN it starts here (and am told it will) then the Fed plans to start in the NorthEast and start attempting to disarm people, even if it means shutting off water and electricity to freeze people out.

    Im told (ahem) that its just a matter of 'who jumps first.'

    (ahem)

    hmmm.

    Lose-lose situation?

    The DoD is apparently amassing a 400,000 or so 'para-military' force of Gubmint workers along with threatening those who will not voulentarily go along to be shoved off into dead end jobs (DoD directive 140410) to, I assume, try to circumvent Posse Comitatus (spelling?). The guise is that they will be deployed for GWOT but didnt nObama say that was over?

    I havent met anyone in the past 6 months that doesnt think its coming.
    Yeah, but whatever happens will NOT happen without a crisis for them to claim some sort of extra-constitutional authority, i.e. declaring martial law or something to that effect and pull a New Orleans, Katrina style gun confiscation drive.... you know, where they give you a receipt for your weapon and tell you that once things settle down... you'll get it back... of course, this time... it will never happen.
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    Exactly, and they are manufacturing it. Waco was a start. Id gotten uncut footage and talked with the Constitutional lawyer on that one, it was a SETUP from the beginning. Fed shooting himself in the leg, several on the roof firing inside where their Comrades had just entered. The Big Lie was that the ammo stockpile was dangerous.

    Ever thrown a round in the fire? A .22 slug goes about 3 inches with a little 'puff'
    Put a round without slug in your favorite gun and rip one off. Not very impressive.

    An un-chambered round has no force behind it, but it makes a good lie with a complicit MEDIA.

    I had a US Mil explosives EXPERT stand over my shoulder while looking at an image of the Fed OKC building who pointed out where the demolition charges had to be placed to bring the building down. Said it was IMPOSSIBLE for a bulk ANFO bomb in a central location to do that. That force disperses spherically. Never mind Gen Partins testimony to that.

    I just dont know what theyre gonna do with 110 MILLION of us armed, which is the last count I heard. That would take a lot of detention centers.



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    Capn Camo wrote:
    I just dont know what theyre gonna do with 110 MILLION of us armed, which is the last count I heard. That would take a lot of detention centers.
    Most of them will give up their arms just so they don't rock the boat.

    Washingtonian: They already have the power, the "righties" voted it in in 2001, it's called the Patriot Act and Obama has yet to hand over his powers back to congress or dissolve the act.

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    bigdaddy1 wrote:
    It would seem that some people are wishing for an insurection, a bloody battle of good versus evil. I dont know why I have this feeling, what do you think
    I think most on this site merely want to live as free men, with a government whose power is limited, and whose public servants respect the constitution.
    He wore his gun outside his pants for all the honest world to see. Pancho & Lefty

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    Thundar wrote:
    bigdaddy1 wrote:
    It would seem that some people are wishing for an insurection, a bloody battle of good versus evil. I dont know why I have this feeling, what do you think
    I think most on this site merely want to live as free men, with a government whose power is limited, and whose public servants respect the constitution.
    yeah, what thundar said

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    Ive heard a (ahem) "prediction" from a (ahem) "credible source" that its not IF, but WHEN. nObamas in cabal with the UNSC (UN Security Council) about small arms disarmament, and Im told WHEN it starts here (and am told it will) then the Fed plans to start in the NorthEast and start attempting to disarm people, even if it means shutting off water and electricity to freeze people out.

    Im told (ahem) that its just a matter of 'who jumps first.'

    (ahem)

    hmmm.

    Lose-lose situation?

    The DoD is apparently amassing a 400,000 or so 'para-military' force of Gubmint workers along with threatening those who will not voulentarily go along to be shoved off into dead end jobs (DoD directive 140410) to, I assume, try to circumvent Posse Comitatus (spelling?). The guise is that they will be deployed for GWOT but didnt nObama say that was over?

    I havent met anyone in the past 6 months that doesnt think its coming.
    and I doubt you will find anyone here, that also thinks it's not coming & soon. Turning off the utilities of the citizens that don't submit ? 400,000 Gobernment Para Militry forces against Millions of heavily armed angry american's... I feel really bad for the first few hundred that try to disarm the populace.....12 men go in & only 7 come out , yup they got the bad guy, but the bad guy got 5 of them, multiply that by lets say 500 - 3 am no knocks , and you got 2500 black clad gobernment types dead & by that time the word is speading like wild fire, with the internet ( or will they bring the internet down ) << That would be the first sign ... shoot outs with cops are happening everywhere by this time , smart cops are staying home to protect their families & taking off the uniforms , by this time the gun culture is banding together all over the USA...spelling bad times for LE & the Gobernment which are on the verge of being outgunned & vastly out numbered. And the Angry Americans will not be operating with rules of engagement. i sure hope that the people do not revert to summary executions of Police - Feds, etc. that would be horrible. Also by this time, the other elements are rioting, looting, the armed gangs are looting & raping taking advantage of the situation, the Military is called into restore order, Martial law is declared , the President request's the UN's Help , 500,000 Blue helmet wearing Chinese troops are deployed on US streets to put down the armed masses....Armed Americans take out the US Military with in 2-4 weeks, the smart ones join the people to save thier own skins. The UN troops are slaughtered, Like I said before no one wants this to happen it would be very bad.
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    hmmm.
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    i dont think people WANT a civil war...........i think people are pretty darn sick of the way things are and are willing to have a war to stop the injustices that are being commited. noone really wants a war other than people who profit monitarily from them. i just think people are so fed up with the BS that much like the civil war......they are almost at the point of being ready to physically fight for their rights...........sad its come to this though.

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    jay75009 wrote:
    i dont think people WANT a civil war...........i think people are pretty darn sick of the way things are and are willing to have a war to stop the injustices that are being commited. noone really wants a war other than people who profit monitarily from them. i just think people are so fed up with the BS that much like the civil war......they are almost at the point of being ready to physically fight for their rights...........sad its come to this though.
    agreed.
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    Capn Camo wrote:
    Ive heard a (ahem) "prediction" from a (ahem) "credible source" that its not IF, but WHEN. nObamas in cabal with the UNSC (UN Security Council) about small arms disarmament, and Im told WHEN it starts here (and am told it will) then the Fed plans to start in the NorthEast and start attempting to disarm people, even if it means shutting off water and electricity to freeze people out.

    Im told (ahem) that its just a matter of 'who jumps first.'

    (ahem)

    hmmm.

    Lose-lose situation?

    The DoD is apparently amassing a 400,000 or so 'para-military' force of Gubmint workers along with threatening those who will not voulentarily go along to be shoved off into dead end jobs (DoD directive 140410) to, I assume, try to circumvent Posse Comitatus (spelling?). The guise is that they will be deployed for GWOT but didnt nObama say that was over?

    I havent met anyone in the past 6 months that doesnt think its coming.
    So you are saying the Constitutional Attorney who is currently the POTUS is going to be the guy ripping it to pieces? Ahem my big toe. Regan said that medicare and medicade were going to turn this country into a communist country. Umm Regan fail.. (he was even a democrat at the time.)

    This country is not going to lose its weapons and if you read that document with UN is about selling arms to third world countries or the import export of arms. This is so we do not empower genocides and warlords as easily as they are today. Citizens are not buying guns for protection in countries where they can hardly afford to feed themselves. Thugs are.... different scenario.

    No secret armies, no secret plots that will slip by the American People. Just scream I am a republican who believes everything on FOX and Rush's radio program. Just scream i troll conspiracy web sites too often and believe them. Just scream this could not be just what people thought was best that we elected.

    Simple fix, run for office, start a new political party, etc.

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