Bull Frog
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I was looking at this guy's documentation earlier, and can't find it now, which speaks to my inability to find what I saw yesterday, but more importantly, finding what I said in the past.
So let me summarize: This guy in Michigan is complaining about being harassed by local LEOs repeatedly for wearing a firearm openly. He is a United States Marine with a valid CCW permit, but he is carrying a weapon openly, which violates CCW guidelines in Michigan. There are multiple videos duplicating multiple situations of "police harassment".
So, you ask, is the weapon (a 1911) I gather, loaded? Good question.
I researched briefly and found an essay (not actual statutes) that says that a concealed weapon, carried by a legal CCW holder, must remain concealed. Period. It mentioned that if the wind happened to blow one's jacket up to reveal a concealed weapon, citizens that may see it may become alarmed, panic, and run for the hills while dialing 911 on their cell phones. Plus the unfortunate wardrobe malfunction victim is likely to be prosecuted for revealing a concealed weapon (is this BS, or what?).
I am assuming this guy is carrying loaded openly, else why would the police keep harassing him? Even though he has a legally issued CCW permit, the cops are pissed because he carries it loaded plain sight? I don't know.
I'm angered because this can happen in America, and states like Michigan and New York ignore the United States Constipation.
So, let's here your opinions: If you have a CCW permit, what happens if a citizen should happen to see a weapon due to a wardrobe malfunction due to an accident, or unconsciousness?
Should you be persecuted for allowing your weapon to show? These same rules need to apply to LEOs out of uniform.
I was looking at this guy's documentation earlier, and can't find it now, which speaks to my inability to find what I saw yesterday, but more importantly, finding what I said in the past.
So let me summarize: This guy in Michigan is complaining about being harassed by local LEOs repeatedly for wearing a firearm openly. He is a United States Marine with a valid CCW permit, but he is carrying a weapon openly, which violates CCW guidelines in Michigan. There are multiple videos duplicating multiple situations of "police harassment".
So, you ask, is the weapon (a 1911) I gather, loaded? Good question.
I researched briefly and found an essay (not actual statutes) that says that a concealed weapon, carried by a legal CCW holder, must remain concealed. Period. It mentioned that if the wind happened to blow one's jacket up to reveal a concealed weapon, citizens that may see it may become alarmed, panic, and run for the hills while dialing 911 on their cell phones. Plus the unfortunate wardrobe malfunction victim is likely to be prosecuted for revealing a concealed weapon (is this BS, or what?).
I am assuming this guy is carrying loaded openly, else why would the police keep harassing him? Even though he has a legally issued CCW permit, the cops are pissed because he carries it loaded plain sight? I don't know.
I'm angered because this can happen in America, and states like Michigan and New York ignore the United States Constipation.
So, let's here your opinions: If you have a CCW permit, what happens if a citizen should happen to see a weapon due to a wardrobe malfunction due to an accident, or unconsciousness?
Should you be persecuted for allowing your weapon to show? These same rules need to apply to LEOs out of uniform.