Hi all. I've been thinking about my 2A rights vs someone with a sign banning handguns/weapons on private property. I just don't get that my consitutional RIGHT can be removed on someone else's private property with a gan/weapon ban sign. On that same token, how can they ask an OC'er to leave?
I understand the constitution to say I have a right to bear arms. I don't know of anyplace where it says I have the right to take that away from anyone else. What gives?
Thanks to ProShooter in another thread for this...
18.2-308 (O) says that a CHP does not override the owner's desire to prohibit firearms on the private property.
How is that constitutional?
On the otherhand, how can a sign apply to OC the same as it applies to a CHP?
Yes, I did a quick search and didn't see anything on this. If it's already addressed, please advise where I can read more. Thank you in advancefor your feedback!
Think of it this way...
I OC and am being an ass. I'm also in your front yard. Under your premise, I'd be able to ignore you and keep doing my thing regardless of your wishes.
Under the way the world works...
I do the same as indicated above. You tell me to leave. I refuse. You can then have me removed from your property. Why?
Because I ignored your rights. Your House = Your Rules.
Remember 'Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness'? Property used to be in place of Happiness until it was changed to make a compromise with one of the Founding Fathers.
Likewise, if I don't want police officers openly or concealed carrying on my property, I can forbid it (with the exception of while they are in the performance of their official duties). *I* can eject pretty much anyone I want from my property. The list of those I cannot eject are all covered by the exception listed above. Thus if you are carrying on my property and I don't want you to, I can make you stop carrying or force you to leave.
Thus private property ownership overrides your public / societal rights. Incidentally, the same applies to free speech. I can just as easily forbid any exercise of free speech on my property.