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    http://hellomichigan.blogspot.com/20...rs-prompt.html

    Video included - most city council members are a little quiet, but they vote 5-4 to repeal a preempted ordinance or two

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    That guy sure is ugly.

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    FatboyCykes wrote:
    That guy sure is ugly.
    But he was prepared and well-spoken. Good job!
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    Mike wrote:
    http://hellomichigan.blogspot.com/20...rs-prompt.html

    Video included - most city council members are a little quiet, but they vote 5-4 to repeal a preempted ordinance or two

    Does this mean the law is repealed or does it mean the vote repeals law that repeals law?

    Confused on the outcome
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    She doesn't know what 'abrogate' means? She can't Google it with that computer in front of her to at least not make herself look really stupid? I'm glad that guy told her to look in a dictionary.

    I know I shouldn't be, but such illiteracy and stupidity in government are the reason for people who honestly believe that their power grabs are a good idea.
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    FatboyCykes wrote:
    That guy sure is ugly.
    He sure is,isn't he! But he is well spoken!LOL!
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    ixtow wrote:
    She doesn't know what 'abrogate' means? She can't Google it with that computer in front of her to at least not make herself look really stupid? I'm glad that guy told her to look in a dictionary.

    I know I shouldn't be, but such illiteracy and stupidity in government are the reason for people who honestly believe that their power grabs are a good idea.
    I am glad that she admitted that she didn't know this word that in my experience is not used very often(at least in the groups that I go with generally) then ask for a definition of it instead of just blindly going forward.
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    FatboyCykes wrote:
    That guy sure is ugly.
    A lefty, too!

    (me too)

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    Though I now live in Indiana my heart is still in Detroit. Thank you all for resisting and aiding in the abolishing of oppressive and obsolete laws. Now we will see if Warren p.d. will abide by the changes and leave us alone when they see a holstered gun and no crime has even been alleged.

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    zigziggityzoo wrote:
    FatboyCykes wrote:
    That guy sure is ugly.
    A lefty, too!

    (me too)
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    Now if you guys could only get non-resident permits allowed in MI, we'd be set (well, there are other firearm laws too that need to be changed, like registration).
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    protias wrote:
    Now if you guys could only get non-resident permits allowed in MI, we'd be set (well, there are other firearm laws too that need to be changed, like registration).
    well, YOU can bring an action under Article IV's privilege's and immunity clause to get this fixed!

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    Mike wrote:
    protias wrote:
    Now if you guys could only get non-resident permits allowed in MI, we'd be set (well, there are other firearm laws too that need to be changed, like registration).
    well, YOU can bring an action under Article IV's privilege's and immunity clause to get this fixed!
    I've never done anything like that before, where do I begin?
    No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms. Thomas Jefferson (1776)

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    I ask sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people except for a few politicians. - George Mason (father of the Bill of Rights and The Virginia Declaration of Rights)

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    protias wrote:
    Mike wrote:
    protias wrote:
    Now if you guys could only get non-resident permits allowed in MI, we'd be set (well, there are other firearm laws too that need to be changed, like registration).
    well, YOU can bring an action under Article IV's privilege's and immunity clause to get this fixed!
    I've never done anything like that before, where do I begin?
    If you want to bring suit against Michigan's discrimination against some permit holders based upon their state citizenship then you should consult with attorneys licvense to practice law in teh federal courts of Michigan who do civil rights actions; obviously this will take money or a very very willing atty to bring the action on contingency for Section 1983 fee shfting.

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    Thanks Mike.
    No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms. Thomas Jefferson (1776)

    If you go into a store, with a gun, and rob it, you have forfeited your right to not get shot - Joe Deters, Hamilton County (Cincinnati) Prosecutor

    I ask sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people except for a few politicians. - George Mason (father of the Bill of Rights and The Virginia Declaration of Rights)

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