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zack991 wrote:
SouthernBoy wrote:
Here's something I have a real problem with in this story. The police arrested BOTH of the men until they could get things sorted out, as they said. Am I missing something here? I mean, a bank with tellers and other employees. These are called witnesses who one might think that as soon as they saw the police arrive they would tell them who the bad guy was and that the man with the gun was a good guy.
I might understand why the police may want to do this (really I don't) if they came upon a scene where the only two people were the BG and the GG. Yeah, I know... they will use the excuse that, "we don't know who is who". But come on. Cops are pretty darned good at determining who the good guys and bad guys are up front. Granted, they don't want to take chance, but if I am out there holding someone under my gun and the cops arrive, I am going to carefully put my gun down and step away from it if asked to do so. I do not expect to be arrested, even for a moment.
If I am wrong in any of this, please educate me.
The way I Look at it is, its their way of punishing the lonely citizens for defending themselves. They are hoping people get tired of being hassled and they stop carrying further. I am not just pulling this out of my butt crack. I had a few cops tell me when pulled over that they will always give CCW holders and open carriers a hard time hoping we give up the idea that we can protect ourselves. I ran into a few cops who are pro gun, but many here are anti-gun union liberals. Where only they have the "training" needed to defend others and their family's. Everyone else in their book are uncivilized morons.
They hate the idea of people not depending on them, they get even more into a hissy fit when you can recite the law and code. They hate it when people know their rights and that they can not BS the lonely citizen around. In short we called it the Napoleon syndrome when I was active duty.
Yeah, I bet that drives them ballistic.
Mylittle rant was not meant to be anti-police at all. However, I have to admit, I don't like cops who get the "God" syndrome.. like doctors, judges, and some other "authority" figures. They seem to forget who they work for (I get a lot of flak about that comment, but it's true. That's why they're called public servants).
I have had to do a 911 twice and I did have a gun handy. Neither time did I ever have a problem with the responding officers but then again, I hadn't shot anyone. Still, you can bet that when the troops arrive, I am going to make it damned clear to them who I am and what I am about to do (I'm the good guy and I will; 1) holster my firearm, or 2) put my firearm down. I don't like the idea of handing my gun over to the police as I see that as a dangerous move. Nor do I like the command to "drop" my gun (don't like the idea of damaging my property).
If I have to shoot someone, I am going to either get on the horn as quickly as I can or have someone else make the call to the police to let them know what has happened, who I am, how I am dressed, and any other descriptions they need to separate me from the BG.