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Nutczak wrote:
Just curious, What are the firearms laws for non-natives in LVD? Because I know non-natives are prohibited from possessing any firearm on tribal land in both theLDF, & LCO reservations.
Michigan is a screwed up case, their current laws prohibit WI residents from carrying a sidearm, but the people of Illinois do have that privelage due to their unique FOID card requirements. So I see this as more of a Michigan Problemwhich leaves usno recourse. To get anything changed we need to rely on the resident of MI to get the changes done so WI residents can exercise our 2A rights in their state. I think WI should just annex the U.P.. It would make more sense for it to belong to WI anyways!
AFAIK, there is no such prohibitions on "non-natives" in LVD. Because LVD is in MI, and MI has CC, there are signs at the casino entrances saying "no firearms" are allowed in casinos.Other than that, they follow MI state firearm laws. I didn't know there wasany firearm prohibitions on "non-natives"in LDF & LCO. I was told by tribal police in LDF that they followed WI firearms laws to the letter, and had no seperate gun laws.I've never been to LCO... I don't work that far west, Park Falls is my western limit.
Yup, MI is screwed up. Here's a case in point. My daughter, 27, has a MN resident carry permit. Most of what she knows about self defense, and firearms handling, she's learned from me. We both attended a MN certified CCW class in 2005, and what we both learned there is what she knows that I didn't teach her. (BTW... in the range qualification, she out-shot dad. We both used my SA 1911UltraCompact in .45acp, and she shot a 147 out of 150, beating my 146).My sister's husband, a FL resident, used his hunter's safety certificate (from 1980) to get his FL CC permit. His instructor back in 1980 was... me. He got his CC based on what I taught him in hunter safety class.
I have the same permits in my wallet as my daughter (MN) and bro-in-law (FL), but mine are non-resident permits. They are each "permitted" by a single state. I'm "permitted" bythree states (MN, FL, NH). But the great state of MI deems both of them "fit" to carry in their state, but my permits arenon-resident, so I'm not fit to carry there. Makes sense to me. Huh???
I've been around long enough to remember the push for a 51st state, named "Superior", consisting of most of northern WI and the U.P. Remember that, from the 70's? That'd make more sense than having the U.P. belong to Madison based assholes.
While I don't agree with MI's no-non-resident policy, I don't see it as solely a MI problem. MI does honor ALL resident permits... very few states have that much reciprocity. WI, IL, and VT are the only states whose entire resident population (other than LEOs) is absolutely 100% prohibited from CC in MI. Notice,
VT residents can't carry in MI neither, nor any other state except AK for that matter, without getting a CC permit issued by another state. That's why I oppose VT carry for WI, and prefer AK style carry instead. But to be honest, I'd prefer VT carry in WI to the current situation of no CC at all. But if I'm gonna fight for something, I'll fight for AK type carry first.
There are some states that have no reciprocity (IA, NE, CA, NY & a few others)but other than NE, they're all "may-issue" restrictive states. The majority of the USA however, does have reciprocity, and the last time I counted, my FL, MN, NH non-res permits are good in 30 states... mostly in thewest & south.I'll be retiring in a few years, and I plan to buy a RV of some type andtravel some... mostly out west. I'll just drive around NE and CO where my non-res permits aren't valid.
I've said more today than in all of the last 6 mos since I registered here.I'm done for now.