What are the laws involved in UOC in public places like grocery stores, banks, the mall etc?Â* I am assuming that there are not laws involved so much as polices.Â*
Private property is generally governed by the property owner. There are no specific laws on carrying on other people's private property. Signage carries no weight of law in California, so even if the property had a big, bold "NO GUNS" sign on the door, you are not violating any law by ignoring it. However you still must obey state law and not enter any property prohibited by the state, or within 1,000 feet of a K-12 school.
I assume that if I go to McDonald's and the manager does not like it, they can ask me to leave, but how would you know beforehand if it is against some sort of policy (ie store policy etc...)
You won't know their policy until they recite it to you. If they have an opinion about UOC, they will most likely tell you. If their policy is visibly posted, you are not required by law to obey it. Most malls are posted no weapons.
Do you just go in, and if a manager approaches you and informs you of some policy then leave, or what?
You are required to leave the property if asked by the owner or agent of the owner. If you refuse, you may be arrested for criminal trespassing.
What if you go into some store, and the manager calls the cops on you, without ever approaching you.Â*
This has happened to many UOCers, as some managers are timid when presented with an armed individual. You will always have to expect this as a possibility whenever you carry on private property. If you have not been asked to leave by an agent of the property, then you are not trespassing under the criminal definition, so an officer may not arrest you for criminal trespass until there has been a refusal to vacate the premises. Disobeying posted signage does not constitute refusal to vacate the property. A peace officer may act as an agent of the property owner and ask you to leave, and you are required by law to obey their request.
I suppose if they did not like it, they could trespass you, or ask you to leave.
What are your experiences with this?
I've yet to be kicked off any private property while carrying.