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    I thought there was a map for states that reciprocate our CPL. I dont see it there. I do however see an unlicensed Travelers' Map, that show our state as no unlicensed carry??? If someone has the link that show what states recognise our CPL, please foward the link.
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    http://www.atg.wa.gov/page.aspx?id=7772

    Washington concealed pistol licenses will be recognized in the following states, and concealed weapons licenses issued in the listed states will be recognized in Washington State, so long as the handgun is carried in accordance with Washington law.
    Arkansas
    Louisiana
    Michigan
    Mississippi
    Missouri
    North Carolina
    Ohio
    Oklahoma
    Utah


    Washington CPL accepted in the following states

    AK*, AR, AZ, ID, IN, KY, LA, MI, MS, MT, MO, NC, OH, OK, SD, TN, TX, UT, VA, VT*,
    (* Vermont (VT) & Alaska (AK). Anyone who can legally own a firearm can
    carry it concealed. No Permit/license is required.)


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    That sucks, what makes Oregon so special. They should honor our CPL.
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    They should honor our CPL
    That is an interesting statement. Why should any state be required to honor any other states concealed carry license, that is other than the fact of the 2A?

    As it stands the 2A does not have incorporation to the states so each state can do whatever it wants in regards to firearms, pretty much.

    You can always take a trip down to Oregon and apply for a concealed carry license so you can be legal there. I don't think a concealed license is required to OC there, you just have to know the local laws I believe. I never go to OR so I am not up to speed on all of the nuances of OC and CC in OR.

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    amzbrady wrote:
    That sucks, what makes Oregon so special. They should honor our CPL.
    Wasn't Oregon passing or going to pass something to recognize neighboring states?
    I am not anti Cop I am just pro Citizen.

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    The reciprical nature of CPLs is why you see the Utah concealed carry course being offered everywhere. Utah is accepted in the largest number of states, so anyone who travels frequently should look into one.

    Even then, Oregon still doesn't accept the Utah one either... Dicks :P

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    One of the key parts of Washington's "Reciprocity Law" is that the other State grant "Reciprocity" to WA CPL holders in order to recognize their licenses here. WA CPL's are recognized in many other states even though we don't recognize THEIR licenses, merely because missing clause in their law(s).

    If 2A is incorporated to the States, and it could be if the McDonald case is decided favorably, it will probably only strike down the prohibitions on gun ownership that exist in some States or Cities. The Court will probably still allow "reasonable regulation" such as Carry Permits which could still be restricted to residency in the State.
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    David.Car wrote:
    Utah is accepted in the largest number of states, so anyone who travels frequently should look into one.

    Does anyone know why this is true? What is different about Utah's license that makes it more respected and acceptedthan other state's licenses?

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    Ajetpilot wrote:
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    Utah is accepted in the largest number of states, so anyone who travels frequently should look into one.

    Does anyone know why this is true? What is different about Utah's license that makes it more respected and acceptedthan other state's licenses?
    It has to do with the fact that Utah accepts any CPL from any state.

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    BobR wrote:
    They should honor our CPL
    That is an interesting statement. Why should any state be required to honor any other states concealed carry license, that is other than the fact of the 2A?

    As it stands the 2A does not have incorporation to the states so each state can do whatever it wants in regards to firearms, pretty much.

    You can always take a trip down to Oregon and apply for a concealed carry license so you can be legal there. I don't think a concealed license is required to OC there, you just have to know the local laws I believe. I never go to OR so I am not up to speed on all of the nuances of OC and CC in OR.

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    Even besides the fact of the 2A AND it not being incorporated to the states, how about this:

    The first section of the fourth article of the Constitution contains the "full faith and credit clause." See U.S. Const. art. IV, § 1. This clause provides that each state must recognize the public acts (laws), records, and judicial proceeding of the other states. The Fourth Article also guarantees that a citizen of a state be entitled to the "privileges and immunities" in every other state. See U.S. Const. art. IV, § 2.


    I don't need a separate driver'slicense for several or all states, nor a new marriage license, insurance with a company in that state, birth certificate, etc...why should I need a separate carry permit, ESPECIALLY for a God given right that is stated in the Bill of Rights?

    It is simply unconstitutional, (most) everyone knows it and until someone with the "right case", the "right" lawyer, deep pockets waiting for the correct make-up of the Supreme Court, etc it will NEVER be recognized. Friggin' BS.

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    David.Car wrote:
    Ajetpilot wrote:
    David.Car wrote:
    Utah is accepted in the largest number of states, so anyone who travels frequently should look into one.

    Does anyone know why this is true? What is different about Utah's license that makes it more respected and acceptedthan other state's licenses?
    It has to do with the fact that Utah accepts any CPL from any state.
    And they require training. Those two things, combined, make it conform to the largest number of other states.
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    BobR wrote:
    They should honor our CPL
    That is an interesting statement. Why should any state be required to honor any other states concealed carry license, that is other than the fact of the 2A?

    As it stands the 2A does not have incorporation to the states so each state can do whatever it wants in regards to firearms, pretty much.

    You can always take a trip down to Oregon and apply for a concealed carry license so you can be legal there. I don't think a concealed license is required to OC there, you just have to know the local laws I believe. I never go to OR so I am not up to speed on all of the nuances of OC and CC in OR.

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    BobR wrote:
    I don't think a concealed license is required to OC there, you just have to know the local laws I believe. I never go to OR so I am not up to speed on all of the nuances of OC and CC in OR.

    bob

    Correct. Oregon is an unrestricted open carry state. My friend went down on vacation with his 8 year old on his motorcycle and carried in the state parks and in the aquarium. He was hassled by park rangers and by aquarium staff. After suggesting they contact their superiors (they did) they apologized and apparently the state park system sent around a training bulletin to tell their rangers to leave people alone.

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    Which I have been wondering for awhile how do we get Washington to legislate to accept all other states concealed. The Thune ammendment, stepped on state powers (see I didn't say rights...LOL) So we should lobby our states to accept CPL from all other states.
    I am not anti Cop I am just pro Citizen.

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    Tawnos wrote:
    And they require training. Those two things, combined, make it conform to the largest number of other states.
    Another reason Washington's CPL is not honored in most States.
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    amlevin wrote:
    Tawnos wrote:
    And they require training. Those two things, combined, make it conform to the largest number of other states.
    Another reason Washington's CPL is not honored in most States.
    All laws should be the same across the board, Find out which state has teh best laws and apply them to all.
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    what will you do now to prove you are not stupid?

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    amlevin wrote:
    Tawnos wrote:
    And they require training. Those two things, combined, make it conform to the largest number of other states.
    Another reason Washington's CPL is not honored in most States.
    Why? Don't most states do FBI background check?
    I am not anti Cop I am just pro Citizen.

    U.S. v. Minker, 350 US 179, at page 187
    "Because of what appears to be a lawful command on the surface, many citizens, because
    of their respect for what only appears to be a law, are cunningly coerced into waiving their
    rights, due to ignorance." (Paraphrased)

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    find out which state has the best
    In the carry-permit arena? Easy, it's Alaska: they don't require a permit for concealed carry, but do have a mechanism to issue a permit if you need one for some reason (e.g. reciprocity.)

    Washington is second-best, as we have a good shall-issue system and no training requirement. Training is a great thing, and I would never advocate that anyone carry w/o some training, but consider: do we have a higher rate of accidents or unwarranted shootings by permit holders than those places that do have training requirements?

    No we do not. I would submit, then, that the burden of proof should be on those who want to further burden our freedom of self-defense, to show that such a burden is both necessary and helpful, before being allowed to add such restrictions.

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    amzbrady wrote:
    We need Tim Eyman to join us.
    Uh...No we don't.
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