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amzbrady

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I thought there was a map for states that reciprocate our CPL. I dont see it there. I do however see an unlicensed Travelers' Map, that show our state as no unlicensed carry??? If someone has the link that show what states recognise our CPL, please foward the link.
 
Bill Starks

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http://www.atg.wa.gov/page.aspx?id=7772

Washington concealed pistol licenses will be recognized in the following states, and concealed weapons licenses issued in the listed states will be recognized in Washington State, so long as the handgun is carried in accordance with Washington law.
Arkansas
Louisiana
Michigan
Mississippi
Missouri
North Carolina
Ohio
Oklahoma
Utah


Washington CPL accepted in the following states

AK*, AR, AZ, ID, IN, KY, LA, MI, MS, MT, MO, NC, OH, OK, SD, TN, TX, UT, VA, VT*,
(* Vermont (VT) & Alaska (AK). Anyone who can legally own a firearm can
carry it concealed. No Permit/license is required.)

 
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They should honor our CPL
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That is an interesting statement. Why should any state be required to honor any other states concealed carry license, that is other than the fact of the 2A?

As it stands the 2A does not have incorporation to the states so each state can do whatever it wants in regards to firearms, pretty much.

You can always take a trip down to Oregon and apply for a concealed carry license so you can be legal there. I don't think a concealed license is required to OC there, you just have to know the local laws I believe. I never go to OR so I am not up to speed on all of the nuances of OC and CC in OR.

bob
 
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The reciprical nature of CPLs is why you see the Utah concealed carry course being offered everywhere. Utah is accepted in the largest number of states, so anyone who travels frequently should look into one.

Even then, Oregon still doesn't accept the Utah one either... Dicks :p
 
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One of the key parts of Washington's "Reciprocity Law" is that the other State grant "Reciprocity" to WA CPL holders in order to recognize their licenses here. WA CPL's are recognized in many other states even though we don't recognize THEIR licenses, merely because missing clause in their law(s).

If 2A is incorporated to the States, and it could be if the McDonald case is decided favorably, it will probably only strike down the prohibitions on gun ownership that exist in some States or Cities. The Court will probably still allow "reasonable regulation" such as Carry Permits which could still be restricted to residency in the State.
 
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Ajetpilot wrote:
David.Car wrote:
Utah is accepted in the largest number of states, so anyone who travels frequently should look into one.
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Does anyone know why this is true? What is different about Utah's license that makes it more respected and acceptedthan other state's licenses?
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It has to do with the fact that Utah accepts any CPL from any state.
 
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BobR wrote:
They should honor our CPL
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That is an interesting statement. Why should any state be required to honor any other states concealed carry license, that is other than the fact of the 2A?

As it stands the 2A does not have incorporation to the states so each state can do whatever it wants in regards to firearms, pretty much.

You can always take a trip down to Oregon and apply for a concealed carry license so you can be legal there. I don't think a concealed license is required to OC there, you just have to know the local laws I believe. I never go to OR so I am not up to speed on all of the nuances of OC and CC in OR.

bob
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Even besides the fact of the 2A AND it not being incorporated to the states, how about this:

The first section of the fourth article of the Constitution contains the "full faith and credit clause." See U.S. Const. art. IV, § 1. This clause provides that each state must recognize the public acts (laws), records, and judicial proceeding of the other states. The Fourth Article also guarantees that a citizen of a state be entitled to the "privileges and immunities" in every other state. See U.S. Const. art. IV, § 2.


I don't need a separate driver'slicense for several or all states, nor a new marriage license, insurance with a company in that state, birth certificate, etc...why should I need a separate carry permit, ESPECIALLY for a God given right that is stated in the Bill of Rights?

It is simply unconstitutional, (most) everyone knows it and until someone with the "right case", the "right" lawyer, deep pockets waiting for the correct make-up of the Supreme Court, etc it will NEVER be recognized. Friggin' BS.

Gary
 
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David.Car wrote:
Ajetpilot wrote:
David.Car wrote:
Utah is accepted in the largest number of states, so anyone who travels frequently should look into one.
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Does anyone know why this is true? What is different about Utah's license that makes it more respected and acceptedthan other state's licenses?
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It has to do with the fact that Utah accepts any CPL from any state.
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And they require training. Those two things, combined, make it conform to the largest number of other states.
 
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BobR wrote:
They should honor our CPL
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That is an interesting statement. Why should any state be required to honor any other states concealed carry license, that is other than the fact of the 2A?

As it stands the 2A does not have incorporation to the states so each state can do whatever it wants in regards to firearms, pretty much.

You can always take a trip down to Oregon and apply for a concealed carry license so you can be legal there. I don't think a concealed license is required to OC there, you just have to know the local laws I believe. I never go to OR so I am not up to speed on all of the nuances of OC and CC in OR.

bob
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ahem... Article IV... ahem.



Edit: Aaaaargh, PappaGary beat me...
 
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BobR wrote:
I don't think a concealed license is required to OC there, you just have to know the local laws I believe. I never go to OR so I am not up to speed on all of the nuances of OC and CC in OR.

bob
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Correct. Oregon is an unrestricted open carry state. My friend went down on vacation with his 8 year old on his motorcycle and carried in the state parks and in the aquarium. He was hassled by park rangers and by aquarium staff. After suggesting they contact their superiors (they did) they apologized and apparently the state park system sent around a training bulletin to tell their rangers to leave people alone.
 
sudden valley gunner

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Which I have been wondering for awhile how do we get Washington to legislate to accept all other states concealed. The Thune ammendment, stepped on state powers (see I didn't say rights...LOL) So we should lobby our states to accept CPL from all other states.
 
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