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Tomahawk wrote:
Hawkflyer wrote:
I will register them the day some explains to me how this will help track a STOLEN gun.
Easy, you just confiscate them before they get stolen.
You guys think this is funny?
This is deadly serious. See what's happening now in Wisconsin:
Back door gun registration for WisconsinBack door gun registration is being proposed for Wisconsin by Senators Coggs, Taylor and Lassa; Representatives Richards, Staskunas, Turner, Young, Sinicki, Berceau, Colon, Grigsby, Fields, Pasch, Kessler, Zepnick and Toles.
SB 367 is yet another attempt to infringe upon lawful gun owners in Wisconsin by making it a crime not to report a lost or stolen gun within 48 hours of discovering the loss or theft. I am not clear how anyone will know if a stolen gun that shows up at a crime scene just 5 hours after it was stolen is your gun orto whom it belongs. The fine for a first time offense is only $1,000 and or 90 days in jail. Should you have a second gun stolen and it is used in a crime before you report it, you risk a $10,000 fine and nine months in jail. Who is to say when you “discovered” it was missing which started the 48 hours clock? How do you prove you did not know what you did not know?
Here is where the initial gun registration begins.
A law enforcement agency that receives under sub. (1) (a) a report of a stolen or lost firearm shall do all of the following:
1. Create a file that includes as much of the following information as is
available:
a. The date on which the firearm was stolen or lost.
b. The caliber, make, and model of the firearm.
c. The serial number of the firearm.
d. Any distinguishing mark on the firearm.
e. The location at which the firearm was purchased by, or transferred to, the person making the report under sub. (1) (a).
This information becomes a permanent record. Even if you recover your property, neither the local law enforcement agency nor Department of Justice is required to purge the record of the firearm or its lawful owner.
The camel’s noise is now under the tent. It is a very short step from here to require that all guns be registered.
From Fox News:
Proposed Wis. law would punish people who don’t report stolen gunsDespite opposition from the National Rifle Association, there appears to be broad support for a proposed Wisconsin law penalizing gun owners who fail to report a lost or stolen gun.
Supporters of the bill call it the next step in cracking down on what are known as "straw gun buys." A straw purchaser is someone who buys a gun for someone who is a felon and then gives or sells it to the felon for use in a crime.
The proposed law that is the latest effort to deter such transactions got a legislative hearing this week. It would allow prosecutors to charge anyone who fails to report a lost or stolen gun in 48 hours with a misdemeanor.
Milwaukee police captain Gary Gacek says it would give law enforcement one more tool in tracking down people who sell guns to criminals. He says “traffickers use the ‘it was stolen’ excuse. The crime is then traced back to the person who legally purchased the gun and when the owner is asked how the gun got to the person who committed the crime, law enforcement is told the gun was lost or stolen.”
Gacek says current law doesn’t require the reporting of lost or stolen guns, so the prosecution of straw gun purchasing isn’t possible.
Opponents say the law would treat responsible gun owners like criminals. Jeff Nass, spokesman for a Wisconsin firearm owners group, says the proposal may be a tool for law enforcement, but says police have the ability to investigate a crime without putting a legal gun owner, who has a gun lost or stolen, “under the guise of doing something illegal.”
But supporters of the bill point to a recent poll that found more than 70 percent of NRA members support similar laws that are already in place in other states. The bill has strong support from law enforcement agencies around the state.
Here's the bill, SB 367:
http://www.legis.state.wi.us/2009/data/SB-367.pdf
What if some gun-hater introduces such a bill in the General Assembly?
