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    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091211/...ooser_gun_laws

    Bet we wont see this on the front page of the times.

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    A Violence Policy Center project has mined news reports to find that more than 100 people have been killed by holders of handgun-carry permits since 2007, including nine law enforcement officers. The project originally intended to list all gun crimes by permit holders, but there were too many to keep track of, Rand said.

    "They shoot each other over parking spaces, at football games and at family events," Rand said. "The idea that you're making any place safer by injecting more guns is just completely contradicted by the facts."
    This is some clever wording. One hundred people have been killed by holders of handgun-carry permits since 2007. But how many of those were suicides, how many of those were lawful self-defense shootings, how many of those police officers who had a handgun-carry permit and shot a criminal doing something heinous?

    I'm guessing once you take away those numbers the number drops dramatically. Anti-gun people never take out the suicides when they talk about people getting killed with guns, they love including them.

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    bigtoe416 wrote:
    A Violence Policy Center project has mined news reports to find that more than 100 people have been killed by holders of handgun-carry permits since 2007, including nine law enforcement officers. The project originally intended to list all gun crimes by permit holders, but there were too many to keep track of, Rand said.

    "They shoot each other over parking spaces, at football games and at family events," Rand said. "The idea that you're making any place safer by injecting more guns is just completely contradicted by the facts."
    This is some clever wording. One hundred people have been killed by holders of handgun-carry permits since 2007. But how many of those were suicides, how many of those were lawful self-defense shootings, how many of those police officers who had a handgun-carry permit and shot a criminal doing something heinous?

    I'm guessing once you take away those numbers the number drops dramatically. Anti-gun people never take out the suicides when they talk about people getting killed with guns, they love including them.
    All of their statistics are invalid except one. 100% of the anti gunners use their 1st ammendment right to try to take away my 2nd ammendment right.
    A citizen may not be required to offer a ―good and substantial reason-- why he should be permitted to exercise his rights. The right‘s existence is all the reason he needs.

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    100 people, over the course of 3 years.

    There are around 700 bicycle deaths annually, but I don't see anyone saying that riding a bike should be outlawed (Think of the CHILDREN!!!!).

    There are about 2.4 million deaths in the US annually. 33 per year comes out to like .001375% due to holders of carry permits.

    There are about 30,000 firearms deaths in the US annually. So even if we just look at firearms deaths we are talking .11% (that is point one one, not eleven) That is like 1 in 1,000.

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    Yep I wrote an essay on how parents are over 900% more dangerous to young children yet to get a newspaper to publish it. Even when I took it down to nothing more but statistics. Yet we are not banning or liscensing parents.
    I am not anti Cop I am just pro Citizen.

    U.S. v. Minker, 350 US 179, at page 187
    "Because of what appears to be a lawful command on the surface, many citizens, because
    of their respect for what only appears to be a law, are cunningly coerced into waiving their
    rights, due to ignorance." (Paraphrased)

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