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What caliber do you carry most often?

Which do you prefer most as your primary defensive weapon?

  • .22lr/mag

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  • .25ACP

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  • .38 Special

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  • .45ACP

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  • .44 Magnum

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  • Total voters
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Springfield45

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rob99vmi04 wrote:
I carry a glock 19 always. I am curious how many of the 10 m m folks and 45 folks actually shoot their carry gun and to what extent. I put 1k-2k rounds a month through my carry gun.
My 10mm sees about 1,500-2,000 rounds per month, easily. It's as cheap to load for
as a .40S&W. My .45 sees just as much as that, if not more, it's a little more costly
than the 10mm to load for, but still not overbearingly expensive to feed.

The 10mm really is not that expensive to own/operate. As long as you're not buying
factory ammunition for it, it's honestly no more expensive to shoot than a .40S&W.
As long as you don't beat the snot outta your brass, you're golden.

Even when it comes time to cycle my carry mags, I carry the 175gr Winchester
Silvertips, Cabela's carries, and stocks them regularly, for $20 a box. That's
about $0.15 more per round than the same round in .40S&W.:celebrate

~~Springfield
 

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Springfield45 wrote:
rob99vmi04 wrote:
I carry a glock 19 always. I am curious how many of the 10 m m folks and 45 folks actually shoot their carry gun and to what extent. I put 1k-2k rounds a month through my carry gun.
My 10mm sees about 1,500-2,000 rounds per month, easily.
Why? Do you simply have gobs of money to burn, or are you unaware that the point of diminishing returns with respect to training efficacy with respect to monthly rounds fired (given a good training program) is essentially flat beyond 500 rounds per month?

No disrespect - just curious. If you're just having fun plinking, please just say so. Thanks.
 

rob99vmi04

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since9 wrote:
Springfield45 wrote:
rob99vmi04 wrote:
I carry a glock 19 always. I am curious how many of the 10 m m folks and 45 folks actually shoot their carry gun and to what extent. I put 1k-2k rounds a month through my carry gun.
My 10mm sees about 1,500-2,000 rounds per month, easily.
Why?  Do you simply have gobs of money to burn, or are you unaware that the point of diminishing returns with respect to training efficacy with respect to monthly rounds fired (given a good training program) is essentially flat beyond 500 rounds per month?

No disrespect - just curious.  If you're just having fun

plinking, please just say so.  Thanks.

I reload my own so for what most people pay for 500
rounds I shoot double possible triple for similar cost. I am very interested where you came up with an exact number forevery shooter before they start getting less effecient. Also, keep in mind diminshing returns stil means you are learning; however, you are learning at a lesser rate then your full potential. For example I fully believe kim rhode could run 25 straight targets on a shotgun field yet she shoots bout 750-1000 targets per day. Iirc she has 1 gold and one silver medal. My point is heavy practice means you r generally fine tuning certain things.

Ps I hate posting from small key boards.
 

Springfield45

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since9 wrote:
Springfield45 wrote:
rob99vmi04 wrote:
I carry a glock 19 always. I am curious how many of the 10 m m folks and 45 folks actually shoot their carry gun and to what extent. I put 1k-2k rounds a month through my carry gun.
My 10mm sees about 1,500-2,000 rounds per month, easily.
Why? Do you simply have gobs of money to burn, or are you unaware that the point of diminishing returns with respect to training efficacy with respect to monthly rounds fired (given a good training program) is essentially flat beyond 500 rounds per month?

No disrespect - just curious. If you're just having fun plinking, please just say so. Thanks.
"point of diminishing returns with respect to training efficacy with respect to monthly rounds fired (given a good training program) is essentially flat beyond 500 rounds per month?" Cite please ? Expert Witness ? No disrespect to you sir, I'm just curious as well, I've never heard of anything like that.

Secondly, Not all of those rounds are on paper, Plinking is a world of fun ... setting up the steel plates and bowling pins in different configurations/ranges each range trip keeps it interesting and fun. I enjoy it very much, as I'm sure many on this forum do the same.

Third, it's not as expensive as many might think, once you begin reloading. According to Cabela's current website prices, for plain Remington FMJ target ammo, 2,500 rds.,
50 boxes of 10mm auto would carry a price tag of $1,345.00, plus Tax and shipping.

I can reload the same 2,500, with bulk components, for less than $575 Yes, that's $0.23 per round. If I did a little more shopping around on component prices, I may
be able to get that down around $0.18 - $.020 per round, sometimes less... On
some occasions, when myself and a few of my range buddies get low on components,
5 or 6 of us will combine our efforts, and all buy large quantities of reloading components together, pick them up at the local gun shop to avoid shipping charges,
There has been times when we were loading .45acp for as low as $0.10 per round.

Shooting ALOT doesn't have to be as expensive as the big box stores would like you to think......

~~Springfield

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Since9

Just curious I noticed you have been a memmber here for 16 days and you have already outposted me who has been here for bout three years when do you find time to shoot 500 rounds a month?
 

rob99vmi04

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Springfield45 wrote:
rob99vmi04 wrote:
I carry a glock 19 always. I am curious how many of the 10 m m folks and 45 folks actually shoot their carry gun and to what extent. I put 1k-2k rounds a month through my carry gun.
My 10mm sees about 1,500-2,000 rounds per month, easily.  It's as cheap to load for
as a .40S&W.  My .45 sees just as much as that, if not more, it's a little more costly
than the 10mm to load for, but still not overbearingly expensive to feed.

The 10mm really is not that expensive to own/operate.  A

long as you're not buying
factory ammunition for it, it's honestly no more expensive to shoot than a .40S&W.
As long as you don't beat the snot outta your brass, you're golden.

Even when it comes time to cycle my carry mags, I carry the 175gr Winchester
Silvertips, Cabela's carries, and stocks them regularly, for $20 a box.  That's
about $0.15 more per round than the same round in .40S&W.   :celebrat
That's cool I used to load 10 actually it was my first caliber I ever loadeded brass was hard to find. I do load 40 now.

~~Springfield
 

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I don't have CCW privileges anymore here in the great People's Socialist Republic of Kalifornia, but when I did my CCW gun was my S&W M36 with Cor-Bon .38sp 125gr. +P (I think round selection is also an important factor). OC gun was/is standard issue Glock 22 with 180gr. Winchester Ranger SXTs. When I can afford to have my Springfield 1911 reworked to reliably feed "flying ash trays" that will take over as my OC gun.

My thoughts on caliber/round selection: "I don't care who you are, or what you're on, you get hit by a 200 gr. .45 caliber hollow point traveling at over 1,000 fps and your going to the ground"
 

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rob99vmi04 wrote:
Since9

Just curious I noticed you have been a memmber here for 16 days and you have already outposted me who has been here for bout three years when do you find time to shoot 500 rounds a month?
According to his officer.com post, he does not shoot every month.

As far as over 500 being a waste, I agree that it depends on the situation. That could be a person who is shooting competitions every weekend, or someone who shoots several days each week. I feel that I need to shoot about 200 rounds each month to stay "in practice" (simply meaning not diminish my skills). I need more than that to improve. Do I need 2000? I don't know.

Consider this though - what is that 500 buying you each month? Proficiency in all of the skills you're trying to develop or just one? If you're practicing movement, multiple adversaries, off hand shooting, off-hand reloading, draw and shoot, shooting with a light etc then how many rounds will it take for you to plateau? Still just 500? I don't think so.

Can you practice many of those skills "dry"? Absolutely. Should you practice them live if you want to get the most out of them? Absolutely.
 

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CarryOpen wrote:
rob99vmi04 wrote:
Since9

Just curious I noticed you have been a memmber here for 16 days and you have already outposted me who has been here for bout three years when do you find time to shoot 500 rounds a month?
According to his officer.com post, he does not shoot every month.

As far as over 500 being a waste, I agree that it depends on the situation. That could be a person who is shooting competitions every weekend, or someone who shoots several days each week. I feel that I need to shoot about 200 rounds each month to stay "in practice" (simply meaning not diminish my skills). I need more than that to improve. Do I need 2000? I don't know.

Consider this though - what is that 500 buying you each month? Proficiency in all of the skills you're trying to develop or just one? If you're practicing movement, multiple adversaries, off hand shooting, off-hand reloading, draw and shoot, shooting with a light etc then how many rounds will it take for you to plateau? Still just 500? I don't think so.

Can you practice many of those skills "dry"? Absolutely. Should you practice them live if you want to get the most out of them? Absolutely.

Thats what I thought.

I do not believe there is a number such (500) which is a point of no return for every shooter out their. I would really like to know where he came up with that number. As a previous poster asked, expert witness, gun guru, or internet expert......

If what he says is true then why would all the big shooting schools have almost triple the shotdoes help. I dry fire for about 30 minutes every night. However, I do not believe that a shooting past a fixed number of shots a month will not help you at all. Yesterday I went shooting for the first time in a week. I went to the range and put down about 300-400 rounds, and it felt good, I could tell there where some rusty areas. I also was training with 2 other guys, and we are constantly pushing one another, and forcing each other to go faster, and be more accurate. Even with the quote "diminshing returns" session I felt like I still walked away with some very useful ideas, and self evaluation.
 

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rob99vmi04 wrote:
I carry a glock 19 always. I am curious how many of the 10 m m folks and 45 folks actually shoot their carry gun and to what extent. I put 1k-2k rounds a month through my carry gun.
All you had to do was ask.

I shoot about 250-300rds per week of full house 10mm (reloads), I also shoot about 1000 rds of .22LR per weekfrom the same gun.

I supplement withdaily dry fire practice and airsoft.
 

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Gee, no one carries a 410? That is what I usually carry usually concealed. I use ooo buck in it.
 

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eotpr wrote:
Gee, no one carries a 410? That is what I usually carry usually concealed. I use ooo buck in it.
Welcome to OCDO.

A number of people carry the Judge as a back up or vehicle gun - there are better ideas for a primary IMHO.

Yata hey
 

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I carry in .40, Sig229 OC or CC if it is raining and I have a coat on (I am in Seattle!)

I carry .32acp, Keltec P32 CC or as a BUG or deap concealed depending on the situation.
 

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I like to keep things simple... only one caliber per type of weapon in the household.

Handguns are all caliber X; shotguns are all caliber X; carbines (that fire rifle rounds -- I am looking at you Hi-Point Firearms) &/or rifles are all caliber X.

My handguns are all .380ACP.

I chucked all my Smith and Wesson semi-autos in .40S&W for the .380ACP guns.

I still own two American made guns - Hi-Point & a Ruger. I just added the Bersa and a Browning.

(.40S&W too expensive for me to shoot often and I really got bothered by all the stuff S&W has done/continues to do-- against the gun owning populace.)

I went from 2 handguns per adult in my household to 4 handguns per adult.

.380 is relatively easier to conceal when it comes to buying pocket pistols and mouse guns which my wife prefers (hey! It got her to carry and shoot! It's a WIN!)

No reason to switch my shotgun caliber of 12 gauge or rifle caliber of 22 LR.

By the way, no .380 ACP on the poll? What's up with that?
 

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I only carry handguns chambered in .45ACP. I believe if you need to throw a rock, throw the biggest rock you can. The .45ACP round has killed a whole lot of bad guys in every shade, on every continent, for 100 years, so it will work just fine for me.
 
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