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A few months ago a local man walked into a Las Vegas branch of Bank of America while openly wearing two semi-automatic handguns, told the armed security guard to go away, cashed his paycheck and made a withdrawal, no shots were fired.
The local man tells his story as follows.
I exited my vehicle approximately fifteen meters in from the front entrance of the building where I noted the armed security guard standing on an elevated planter about seven meters south of the front entrance directly behind my vehicle. The guard was either playing a game or texting on his cell phone as I walked past him and entered the bank, after holding the door open for some patrons that were exiting the facility I was greeted by a young female employee holding a clipboard as she asked "How may I help you today?" I replied "I am cashing a paycheck and making an odd amount withdrawal." She stated "I can help you out with that today." As she passed me a withdrawal slip to fill out she noticed the Glock 22 .40 on my right hip. She then asked "What kind of gun is that?" I replied "Which one? (with a slight laugh) I am actually wearing two, a Glock 22 .40 caliber and a Glock 19 9 millimeter." She said "Oh, yeah my Dad just got a gun and I am concerned because he doesn't know how to use it." I then told her that he should take a class from a professional." and asked her if I could give her a website for reference."
She handed me another deposit slip and I wrote down a website address on the back side. Just as I returned the slip to her there was a knock on the glass window beside the both of us. The security guard was outside tapping on the window. As I looked over at him he pointed down at my gun and raised his voice to speak through the glass stating "You can't have that in there!" I nodded my head and in a raised (tenor like) voice stated "Yes.. yes I can!" and then immediately looked away and joined the line of people line. I looked out the window at the security officer and noticed he was on his cell phone, this time talking on it, I assumed that he was calling the Police. As I waited for my turn in line the security officer entered through the doors and stood off to the side, as soon as I got to the turn in the line nearest to the security guard he approached me and
he said "Excuse me Sir, you can't have a gun in the bank."
I replied "Says who?" He replied "It's the law."
I replied "Well if that was the case, shouldn't you have left yours outside?"
he replied "I'm an employee."
I replied "I am a customer, so I am paying to be here, I should have preference... but I digress. In fact it is not against the law, The United States Constitution, The Nevada Constitution, Nevada being an open carry state, and nowhere in the Nevada Revised Statutes does it state that you may not carry a firearm on private property including a bank, but I don't have time to teach you your job, so please call 311 The Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Department's non-emergency phone number as this is a non-emergency. Ask to speak to a desk Sergeant so he can properly educate you to avoid any further embarrassment. I am going back to my business, you should go back to yours. Thank you for your concern though."
I could tell that he was upset, as I turned my back on him he stood there and glared at me. I then advanced back to my place in line. The security officer then began another phone call. As I was the next to be called in line the security guard walked behind the service counter and entered an office. The then exited the office with another gentleman who I can only assume was a manager. The young lady at the end of the counter directly in front of the security guard and manager then called "I can help you down here." I walked up to the counter and said "Good afternoon, how are you today?" she replied "Good, thank you. How may I help you today?" I stated my desire to cash my check and handed her the pre-filled deposit slip.
As the transaction continued the security guard and the manager spoke amongst themselves and shrugged their shoulders. The young lady assisting me looked up and finally noticed that I was wearing a firearm and
she asked me "What do you do?"
I replied "I am a teacher."
She said "Oh, what do you teach?"
I said advanced tactical and defensive firearms."
slightly set back, she replied "Ok (with a slight laugh) that isn't a college course is it?"
I replied "No, but rifle and pistol used be taught in High School years ago."
She replied "Wow, yeah I am scared of guns but I know that is because I don't know anything about them."
I replied "Well that is a very honest and mature statement, I know that is why most people are afraid of guns. I left some information with the young lady at the front door.
It is sad that there are so many people who carry a gun for a living and don't know anything about them. I actually had to inform your security guard about the laws concerning carrying a firearm in Nevada. In fact you have probably never been safer than you are right now, because there is actually someone in this building with the knowledge, respect, and most importantly the ability to use the weapons that they are carrying. (A slight clap from someone in the line) If bad guys were going to rob this bank by force they would come in greater numbers with greater weapons than the five or six shot revolver that your guard is carrying with no additional ammo. I am carrying two guns and over seventy rounds of ammo on my person right now and I wouldn't want to be in a fire fight with bank robbers. As your guard simply provides a sense of security through a visual deterrent, in all likelihood he would do more harm than good, being that the accuracy portion of his training consisted of firing thirty rounds, and Police Officers who have to qualify with fifty rounds every six months, miss their intended targets almost sixty percent of the time."
She replied " Wow, that's horrible." I replied "I know." As I turned to the rest of the audience in the line who had been listening intently, I addressed everyone and said " I know there is a lot of negative publicity in the media today concerning firearms, and even if you are never going to carry a gun to protect yourself or your loved ones, you should learn something about them and the laws concerning them, only though education and understanding can we change the perception of firearms as self defense weapons. Folks there are a few reasons why I carry a gun, One: Because they bad guys have them. Two: Because carrying a cop is too heavy. (slight chuckle from a few patrons) and Three: I am actually a professional firearms instructor, and a bodyguard. I normally charge $150.00 an hour for protection. This one is free. Have a great day. Stay safe.
I gathered my cash and nodded at the security guard and manager and made my way out the door.
The man in this story, was myself. A few of those rants were pre-rehearsed by dealing with other questions from people in my day to day walk of carrying openly in Las Vegas. A few friends of mine and I are planning on doing a series of videos for You Tube on Mr. Open Carry. Education for citizens and Law Enforcement on how to deal with the armed public. I'll post again when some of the videos are up. I would also love to do some re-enactments of stories we share on here. Please contact me with any ideas.
Eric Loden
Range Master
Front Sight Firearms Institute
eric.loden@gmail.com
http://www.frontsight.com
A few months ago a local man walked into a Las Vegas branch of Bank of America while openly wearing two semi-automatic handguns, told the armed security guard to go away, cashed his paycheck and made a withdrawal, no shots were fired.
The local man tells his story as follows.
I exited my vehicle approximately fifteen meters in from the front entrance of the building where I noted the armed security guard standing on an elevated planter about seven meters south of the front entrance directly behind my vehicle. The guard was either playing a game or texting on his cell phone as I walked past him and entered the bank, after holding the door open for some patrons that were exiting the facility I was greeted by a young female employee holding a clipboard as she asked "How may I help you today?" I replied "I am cashing a paycheck and making an odd amount withdrawal." She stated "I can help you out with that today." As she passed me a withdrawal slip to fill out she noticed the Glock 22 .40 on my right hip. She then asked "What kind of gun is that?" I replied "Which one? (with a slight laugh) I am actually wearing two, a Glock 22 .40 caliber and a Glock 19 9 millimeter." She said "Oh, yeah my Dad just got a gun and I am concerned because he doesn't know how to use it." I then told her that he should take a class from a professional." and asked her if I could give her a website for reference."
She handed me another deposit slip and I wrote down a website address on the back side. Just as I returned the slip to her there was a knock on the glass window beside the both of us. The security guard was outside tapping on the window. As I looked over at him he pointed down at my gun and raised his voice to speak through the glass stating "You can't have that in there!" I nodded my head and in a raised (tenor like) voice stated "Yes.. yes I can!" and then immediately looked away and joined the line of people line. I looked out the window at the security officer and noticed he was on his cell phone, this time talking on it, I assumed that he was calling the Police. As I waited for my turn in line the security officer entered through the doors and stood off to the side, as soon as I got to the turn in the line nearest to the security guard he approached me and
he said "Excuse me Sir, you can't have a gun in the bank."
I replied "Says who?" He replied "It's the law."
I replied "Well if that was the case, shouldn't you have left yours outside?"
he replied "I'm an employee."
I replied "I am a customer, so I am paying to be here, I should have preference... but I digress. In fact it is not against the law, The United States Constitution, The Nevada Constitution, Nevada being an open carry state, and nowhere in the Nevada Revised Statutes does it state that you may not carry a firearm on private property including a bank, but I don't have time to teach you your job, so please call 311 The Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Department's non-emergency phone number as this is a non-emergency. Ask to speak to a desk Sergeant so he can properly educate you to avoid any further embarrassment. I am going back to my business, you should go back to yours. Thank you for your concern though."
I could tell that he was upset, as I turned my back on him he stood there and glared at me. I then advanced back to my place in line. The security officer then began another phone call. As I was the next to be called in line the security guard walked behind the service counter and entered an office. The then exited the office with another gentleman who I can only assume was a manager. The young lady at the end of the counter directly in front of the security guard and manager then called "I can help you down here." I walked up to the counter and said "Good afternoon, how are you today?" she replied "Good, thank you. How may I help you today?" I stated my desire to cash my check and handed her the pre-filled deposit slip.
As the transaction continued the security guard and the manager spoke amongst themselves and shrugged their shoulders. The young lady assisting me looked up and finally noticed that I was wearing a firearm and
she asked me "What do you do?"
I replied "I am a teacher."
She said "Oh, what do you teach?"
I said advanced tactical and defensive firearms."
slightly set back, she replied "Ok (with a slight laugh) that isn't a college course is it?"
I replied "No, but rifle and pistol used be taught in High School years ago."
She replied "Wow, yeah I am scared of guns but I know that is because I don't know anything about them."
I replied "Well that is a very honest and mature statement, I know that is why most people are afraid of guns. I left some information with the young lady at the front door.
It is sad that there are so many people who carry a gun for a living and don't know anything about them. I actually had to inform your security guard about the laws concerning carrying a firearm in Nevada. In fact you have probably never been safer than you are right now, because there is actually someone in this building with the knowledge, respect, and most importantly the ability to use the weapons that they are carrying. (A slight clap from someone in the line) If bad guys were going to rob this bank by force they would come in greater numbers with greater weapons than the five or six shot revolver that your guard is carrying with no additional ammo. I am carrying two guns and over seventy rounds of ammo on my person right now and I wouldn't want to be in a fire fight with bank robbers. As your guard simply provides a sense of security through a visual deterrent, in all likelihood he would do more harm than good, being that the accuracy portion of his training consisted of firing thirty rounds, and Police Officers who have to qualify with fifty rounds every six months, miss their intended targets almost sixty percent of the time."
She replied " Wow, that's horrible." I replied "I know." As I turned to the rest of the audience in the line who had been listening intently, I addressed everyone and said " I know there is a lot of negative publicity in the media today concerning firearms, and even if you are never going to carry a gun to protect yourself or your loved ones, you should learn something about them and the laws concerning them, only though education and understanding can we change the perception of firearms as self defense weapons. Folks there are a few reasons why I carry a gun, One: Because they bad guys have them. Two: Because carrying a cop is too heavy. (slight chuckle from a few patrons) and Three: I am actually a professional firearms instructor, and a bodyguard. I normally charge $150.00 an hour for protection. This one is free. Have a great day. Stay safe.
I gathered my cash and nodded at the security guard and manager and made my way out the door.
The man in this story, was myself. A few of those rants were pre-rehearsed by dealing with other questions from people in my day to day walk of carrying openly in Las Vegas. A few friends of mine and I are planning on doing a series of videos for You Tube on Mr. Open Carry. Education for citizens and Law Enforcement on how to deal with the armed public. I'll post again when some of the videos are up. I would also love to do some re-enactments of stories we share on here. Please contact me with any ideas.
Eric Loden
Range Master
Front Sight Firearms Institute
eric.loden@gmail.com
http://www.frontsight.com