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    Ban Assault weapons now.

    Let me begin by saying that I am a gun owner and avid hunter and I do believe that every American has the right to own guns. However, the recent murder of another local police officer by an assailant using an assault weapon should be the last straw.
    Assault rifles are designed with a single purpose -- to kill human beings. They are weapons of war. Assault weapons belong only in the hands of the military. These guns have no role in peaceful society.
    It is time for Congress to ban the sale and ownership of fully automatic weapons. This cannot happen until the National Rifle Association (NRA) abandons its obstructionist policies.
    The NRA brandishes the Second Amendment to the Constitution as its silver hammer to quash any argument that any type of restriction on gun ownership be allowed. What the NRA too often fails to acknowledge is the complete wording of the Second Amendment and the context of when it was written. It reads: "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."
    Funny how the NRA always seems to forget those first two phrases. Keep in mind that when the Constitution was written, the Revolutionary War had recently ended and the weapon of the day was a single-shot long rifle.
    Too many in Congress have taken money from the NRA for a ban on assault weapons to ever come about. The only hope we have of this happening depends on enough people expressing their outrage when courageous police officers are mercilessly gunned down by people using assault rifles.
    How many more police officers must die before Congress does the right thing?
    James J. Menegazzi
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    P.S. Before some says that this has nothing to do with OC. read the text of the Assault weapons ban re authorization act of 2008 , semi auto pistols, shotguns & rifles all deemed Assault weapons.

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    http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pitt.../s_658075.html

    http://glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?p=14361498

    Yeah, I saw it at G LOC drivel from Pennsylvania.

    ISTR someone biotching about talk-talk. Maybe they shouldn't hang around talk sites. Pizzed-off yet? Swallow your anger.

    Either we are equal or we are not. Good people ought to be armed where they will, with wits and guns and the truth. NRA ******* God damn the Obamination

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    I want you all to see that I start a new thread about something compltely different & Master Doug has to be the first in to be a troll.

    Of course you will all jump on me for bashing him, right ?

    and someone here will stick up for him


    Doug, if you enjoy being a troll, do it someplace else
    Swallow my anger ? Trust me old man, you don't want non of this.


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    It could get worse here. Read the Glock Talk post by LanceOregon. Pennsylvania prohibits semiauto rifles or pistols for hunting.

    http://glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?p=14361498

    When Doyle was AG, he was pushing to limit all firearms in Wisconsin to a single shot. Remember this guy was elected to two terms as AG and Governor. Someone agrees with him.

    http://www.zwire.com/site/news.cfm?n...7660&rfi=6
    When in danger you can dial 911 and hope for the police to arrive a few minutes later armed with guns.
    Why do police carry guns?

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    Flipper wrote:
    It could get worse here. Read the Glock Talk post by LanceOregon. Pennsylvania prohibits semiauto rifles or pistols for hunting.

    http://glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?p=14361498

    When Doyle was AG, he was pushing to limit all firearms in Wisconsin to a single shot. Remember this guy was elected to two terms as AG and Governor. Someone agrees with him.

    http://www.zwire.com/site/news.cfm?n...7660&rfi=6
    the liberals do & they fund him...but Obama is rubbing alot people the wrong way & making democrats look bad, as they should. next year we will have a Republican Governor that I hope won't give anti gun bills the light of day.
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    http://opencarry.mywowbb.com/forum1/1.html
    8) General: No shouting in All Capital Letters.

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    McX wrote:
    Ban assault weapons? When every chain gun place in the US is pushing them? When you can chimp them on the web? When they're already everywhere? Hmmmmmmmmmmm.
    Now chain guns are assault weapons.

    It is significant that during firing of 101,343 rounds not one jam or stoppage occurred due to loss of round control in the gun or feeder mechanism... [this] is in our experience very unusual in any weapon of any caliber or type.

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    When in danger you can dial 911 and hope for the police to arrive a few minutes later armed with guns.
    Why do police carry guns?

    The Joyce Foundation funded firearm control empire:
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    Hasn't the WIDNR already introduced legislation that bans "Rail Guns" for the use of taking game?

    Do rail guns even exist yet? Or are they just referenced in Tesla's work as a possibility?

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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rail_gun#Tests

    http://www.onr.navy.mil/Media-Center...n-10%20MJ.aspx

    Or do you mean guns for shooting rails, coots, and gallinules? There used to be a 10 ga. behind the backdoor of the ranchhouse where I spent weekends growing up - where I got to watch U-2s and SR-71s fly from Moffet NAS across the highway.

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    Master Doug Huffman wrote:
    http://opencarry.mywowbb.com/forum1/1.html
    8) General: No shouting in All Capital Letters.
    OH, SO sorry Master OCDO.ORG thread police. < not all in caps
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    wow, this post went so far off subject in the shortest amount of time ever. Rail guns ? and Dougy the masters incoherent babbling....gee whiz guys, can we stay just a little bit on subject.
    Hey, doug, why don't you start your own thread & discuss meaning less stuff There, keep fantasy land for General discussion.

    I was attempting to keep this thread about , A new Assault weapon bans effect on OC.
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    Sigh - If it wasn't for spam and trolls what would some of us do.

    Come on guys, get serious, take your meds and get some sleep. :?

    Tomorrow will be a better day....I hope.

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    "Assault weapons belong only in the hands of the military. These guns have no role in peaceful society."

    Then why the f*ck do I see coppers with AR style rifles? I know they dont want to admit it but po-lice are not military.
    "A strong body makes the mind strong. As to the species of exercises, I advise the gun. While this gives moderate exercise to the body, it gives boldness, enterprise and independence to the mind. Games played with the ball, and others of that nature, are too violent for the body and stamp no character on the mind. Let your gun therefore be your constant companion of your walks."
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    McX wrote:
    time maybe to turn the thread. we got some potentially serious poop to discuss; just came across the Cnn news feed ticker; iran "invaded" and took over a southern iraq oil field. and so it starts again. bet $5 our government wont' do squat.
    I just turned CNN on and Nothing about this, Fox is the same...why are they not talking about it ? this would be HUGE news.
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    http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20091218...20091218153543

    NASIRIYAH, Iraq (AFP) – Iranian forces took control of a southern Iraqi oil well on a disputed section of the border on Friday, US and Iraqi officials told AFP.
    "There has been no violence related to this incident and we trust this will be resolved through peaceful diplomacy between the governments of Iraq and Iran," a US military spokesman told AFP at Contingency Operating Base Adder, just outside the southern Iraqi city of Nasiriyah.
    "The oil field is in disputed territory in between Iranian and Iraqi border forts," he said, adding that such incidents occur quite frequently.
    An official of the state-owned South Oil Co in the southeastern city of Amara, and west of the field, said: "An Iranian force arrived at the field early this morning (Friday).
    "It took control of Well 4 and raised the Iranian flag even though the well lies in Iraqi territory," the official added.
    "An oil ministry delegation is to travel to the area on Saturday to assess the situation."
    The national security council was due to hold an emergency meeting on Friday chaired by Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki, Iraqi state television said quoting the minister of state for national security, Shirwan al-Waili.
    The council also groups the ministers of interior, defence, foreign affairs, justice and finance.
    Well 4 lies in the Fauqa Field, part of a cluster of fields Iraq unsuccessfully put up for auction to oil majors in June. The field has estimated reserves of 1.55 million barrels.
    The field is about 500 metres (yards) from an Iranian border fort and about 1 kilometre from an Iraqi border fort, US Colonel Peter Newell said, adding that it falls on the Iraqi side of a border agreed between the two countries.
    There are five other similar fields that also fall into disputed territory, he said.
    "What happens is, periodically, about every three or four months, the oil ministry guys from Iraq will go ... to fix something or do some maintenance. They'll paint it in Iraqi colours and throw an Iraqi flag up.
    "They'll hang out there for a while, until they get tired, and as soon as they go away, the Iranians come down the hill and paint it Iranian colours and raise an Iranian flag. It happened about three months ago and it will probably happen again."
    He added that the Iraqis are "very concerned about the Iranians pulling oil out of fields underneath Iraq."
    Iran has prevented Iraqi oil officials from reaching the well in the past, an industry source said. The Iraqis have accused Iran of firing on their people, something Tehran has denied.
    There have been a number of meetings in recent years aimed at reaching agreement on border fields, so far without success.


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    Nyaah, I'm happy right here and harassing the weak minded. I've ridden thousands of miles in Florida and y'all are welcome to it. It's like a jar of jam, put the lid on, it's full and sterile.

    My longest unsupported ride was 1200 miles from Seabrook Island, SC to New Smyrna Beach, FL and back. I qualified as LCI in Florida.

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    What good will banning "assault weapons" do? ANY weapon can be classified as an assault weapon, and any assault weapon can be reclassified as a non-assault weapon. There's no point to this what so ever other than to annoy the crap out of us and take the coolest looking rifles out there (AR-15s) out of our hands. ********... And FTR, AR stands for ARMALITE RIFLE, NOT ASSAULT RIFLE. Politicians can be so stupid.

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    thelongone13 wrote:
    What good will banning "assault weapons" do? ANY weapon can be classified as an assault weapon, and any assault weapon can be reclassified as a non-assault weapon. There's no point to this what so ever other than to annoy the crap out of us and take the coolest looking rifles out there (AR-15s) out of our hands. @#$%s... And FTR, AR stands for ARMALITE RIFLE, NOT ASSAULT RIFLE. Politicians can be so stupid.
    yes they are.
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    Wow.........i have no idea what this thread is about. kinda looks like a page long word vomit.


    and i'm sorry, but if i may voice my personal opinion.
    Assault rifles are designed with a single purpose -- to kill human beings
    1)ANY gun is essentially designed and made for KILLING. not just AR style guns.
    2)GUNS (no matter what kind) DO NOT KILL PEOPLE. i have never in my life seen a gun of any shape or size just JUMP UP out of nowhere and just shoot somebody. if you take a gun and lay it on a table surrounded by people, it will lay there until it rusts and becomes inoperable WITHOUT EVER KILLING A SINGLE LIVING THING.
    3)banning any guns is completely ignorant, because CRIMINALS DO NOT OBEY LAWS. so banning guns only makes people without equal measures into victims.


    not to long ago i was reading an article in a gun magazine about a police department (can't remember where, i'll try to find the article) that was NOT ALLOWED to have AR style guns. guess what??? they where getting their azzes handed to them by the criminals.


    banning guns of any kind, or imposing to many rules on any kind ONLY gives the criminals more power.

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    scorpio_vette wrote:
    1)ANY gun is essentially designed and made for KILLING. not just AR style guns.
    I disagree with this statement.

    None of the firearms I have were designed to "kill."

    They are NOT weapons. A Weapon is somethingused to injure, defeat, or destroy. Although I can use my firearm as a weapon, that is NOT it's primary purpose.

    My firearms were designed to send a projectile, in a certain direction, at a certain velocity, that is all. Firearms, just like bats or hammers can be used as weapons, and can be used to kill, but that is NOT be design, that is by use.

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