GLOCK21GB
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Mugenlude wrote:
Your honor I was just standing there on the street watching this big snow ball fight then this guy gets out of his car & pulls a pistol, then he started yelling at us , I thought he was high on crack so i defended myself.
Did he Identify himself as a police officer, NO your honor he did not.
2. I was reasonably in immediate fear of death or great bodily harm.
Like i said your honor this guy that looked to me like a drug dealer pulled out a pistol & it appeared he was going to start killing all of us.
3. No lesser force would do.
Like I previously stated your honor, He had a gun & appeared bent on executing us & I started thinking about Virginia Tech & all those people that got killed, I was so frightened.
4. Retreat wasn't practical.
NO, he had a gun & would have shot me in the back,I was so scared, WE HAVE THE ENTIRE INCIDENT on Video your honor
Your honor, we the people of the jury find the defendant, Not Guilty.
Mugenlude wrote:
1. I was a reluctant participant.Glock34 wrote:The first thing you do is create distance, also known as retreat.HankT wrote:and you prefer to be shot ? :?AaronS wrote:If I saw any person do what he did, I would have to agree about the response. I would have had to brandish. And if this mad manwould have even started to point his gun at anyone, I would have had to stop him, as best I can...
Exactly.....the wrong thing to do.....
</shake head off>
In court you need to be able to articulate the following:
1. I was a reluctant participant.
2. I was reasonably in immediate fear of death or great bodily harm.
3. No lesser force would do.
4. Retreat wasn't practical.
These four things that anyone that wants to say out of jail had better memorize, along with what to say after an incident!!! I know that training isn't required in WI, but I do think that anyone that is serious about protecting themselves and their family (being able to support them after an incident is part of this) should take some type of class that explains shot/no shot situations...
Your honor I was just standing there on the street watching this big snow ball fight then this guy gets out of his car & pulls a pistol, then he started yelling at us , I thought he was high on crack so i defended myself.
Did he Identify himself as a police officer, NO your honor he did not.
2. I was reasonably in immediate fear of death or great bodily harm.
Like i said your honor this guy that looked to me like a drug dealer pulled out a pistol & it appeared he was going to start killing all of us.
3. No lesser force would do.
Like I previously stated your honor, He had a gun & appeared bent on executing us & I started thinking about Virginia Tech & all those people that got killed, I was so frightened.
4. Retreat wasn't practical.
NO, he had a gun & would have shot me in the back,I was so scared, WE HAVE THE ENTIRE INCIDENT on Video your honor
Your honor, we the people of the jury find the defendant, Not Guilty.