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    I have a question. I think I know the answer but entrust you fine people to reassure my beliefs. My wife and I now own her grandfathers house after he passed. In it we found a pistol. It isn't worth a lot by any means. Just a Ravens 25acp but my wife wants to make it legal because it was her grandfathers and they were very close.

    I don't think it was ever registered to him but am not sure.Anyone want to chime in on the SOP of handling this?


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    SlowDog wrote:
    I have a question. I think I know the answer but entrust you fine people to reassure my beliefs. My wife and I now own her grandfathers house after he passed. In it we found a pistol. It isn't worth a lot by any means. Just a Ravens 25acp but my wife wants to make it legal because it was her grandfathers and they were very close.

    I don't think it was ever registered to him but am not sure.Anyone want to chime in on the SOP of handling this?


    Thanks...SlowDog
    If you have a CPL just fill out the paperwork and where it has seller put grandfather- deceased in that space. Then file the papers.

    Otherwise get a Purchase permit and do the same thing. Some may ask for proof of death like a death certificate or Obit or obit church prayer card etc...

    The important thing is that the state wants you to register the gun so they are happy to get the paper work on it.
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    *The information contained above is not meant to be legal advice, but is solely intended as a starting point for further research. These are my opinions, if you have further questions it is advisable to seek out an attorney that is well versed in firearm law.

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    This may sound crazy but, I just don't want it to be tied to any shootings in the past. Ya just never know...
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    You are right to have those concerns. But I think that's a chance you may be taking.

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    I have had experience with this. What Venator says is correct, but they do require a copy of the death certificate for records. As far as the gun possibly showing up in search as stolen, used in a crime...etc. You will not be held responsible because you are there to voluntarily register or turn it in. In flint, I assisted a friend of mine who's father passed away and a gun was found in his dresser. We went to the city pd and in a search...the gun came back stolen from Ohio. Hence the PD kept the gun but said he would not be charged because he brought the gun in and was not the owner in possession.

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    I doubt anybody will give you any hassle. A friend of mine had an unregistered pistol (revolver) at his grandpa's house. Due to an incident there, the pistol was taken by the State Police. My friend thought the gun was lost, thinking it was confiscated because it was not registered. A few months later, State Police showed up at his grandpa's and returned it. They told his g'pa that is was last registered in California.

    They never even told him to get it registered, but he decided to afterwords. He just put his grandpa as the seller, and him as the buyer. He hasn't had any issues with it.
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    I have a follow on question to this discussion.

    I have three handguns at my Dads home in Ohio that he has used for many years. I live here in Michigan (for the past ten years) and have a valid Michigan CPL.

    My Dad is too old now to be able to handle the handguns safely and has asked me to take them back.

    Once I bring them back to Michigan, what is the proper way to register them?

    These three guns were purchased in Ohio back in the 70's.

    Thanks.

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    Monster wrote:
    I have a follow on question to this discussion.

    I have three handguns at my Dads home in Ohio that he has used for many years. I live here in Michigan (for the past ten years) and have a valid Michigan CPL.

    My Dad is too old now to be able to handle the handguns safely and has asked me to take them back.

    Once I bring them back to Michigan, what is the proper way to register them?

    These three guns were purchased in Ohio back in the 70's.

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    Don't bring them back to Michigan. Have them shipped from your dad in Ohio via common carrier (UPS/FedEx) to a FFL in Michigan. Then, with your CPL and form RI-60, have them transferred to you by the FFL. Most FFLs will accept a pistol from an individual provided a valid driver's license is included with the shipment.

    Here's one located in Northern Macomb county that I know will handle this type of transfer for you:
    http://www.customizedcreationz.com/home.html

    IT IS UNLAWFUL FOR INDIVIDUALS TO TRANSFER FIREARMS ACROSS STATE LINES.

    IT IS ALSO UNLAWFUL FOR AN INDIVIDUAL TO SHIP PISTOLS VIA THE U.S.POSTAL SERVICE!!!

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    I am guessing that MI has no specific laws on a firearm being "Gifted" from one family member to another?

    I find it weird and very disturbingthat you guys need to register guns tobe considered legal to possess them ? I suppose this will make it easier for the Govt.to round up all the firearms if and when a total ban on them is attempted.

    IMO, the county, state, or federal govt. has absolutely no business knowing what type of, orhow many firearms I own.

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    Nutczak wrote:
    I am guessing that MI has no specific laws on a firearm being "Gifted" from one family member to another?

    I find it weird and very disturbingthat you guys need to register guns tobe considered legal to possess them ? I suppose this will make it easier for the Govt.to round up all the firearms if and when a total ban on them is attempted.

    IMO, the county, state, or federal govt. has absolutely no business knowing what type of, orhow many firearms I own.
    Only pistols.

    It stems from an "issue" a long time ago:

    Basically, a black doctor shot a couple KKK members with a .38 revolver. So they instituted "handgun registration", which EVEN TODAY asks you "What ethnicity are you?".

    Also, it has a basic T/F test on gun safety.

    Yup. Awesome.

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    office888 wrote:
    Nutczak wrote:
    I am guessing that MI has no specific laws on a firearm being "Gifted" from one family member to another?

    I find it weird and very disturbingthat you guys need to register guns tobe considered legal to possess them ? I suppose this will make it easier for the Govt.to round up all the firearms if and when a total ban on them is attempted.

    IMO, the county, state, or federal govt. has absolutely no business knowing what type of, orhow many firearms I own.
    Only pistols.
    Only pistols hell.

    Nut is right, its none of their damn buisiness. Registration leads to confiscation.

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    Honestly, the first thing that pops into my head when I think aboutowning a unregistered gun: "HA! Nobody will EVER know I have this! If they come for the registered ones they can have them. Too bad about the other ones!":P

    But,...that's probably just me...



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    Scooter wrote:
    Honestly, the first thing that pops into my head when I think aboutowning a unregistered gun: "HA! Nobody will EVER know I have this! If they come for the registered ones they can have them. Too bad about the other ones!":P

    But,...that's probably just me...

    no it isnt

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    AMEN!
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    Monster wrote:
    I have a follow on question to this discussion.

    I have three handguns at my Dads home in Ohio that he has used for many years. I live here in Michigan (for the past ten years) and have a valid Michigan CPL.

    My Dad is too old now to be able to handle the handguns safely and has asked me to take them back.

    Once I bring them back to Michigan, what is the proper way to register them?

    These three guns were purchased in Ohio back in the 70's.

    Thanks.
    Don't bring them back to Michigan. Have them shipped from your dad in Ohio via common carrier (UPS/FedEx) to a FFL in Michigan. Then, with your CPL and form RI-60, have them transferred to you by the FFL. Most FFLs will accept a pistol from an individual provided a valid driver's license is included with the shipment.

    Here's one located in Northern Macomb county that I know will handle this type of transfer for you:
    http://www.customizedcreationz.com/home.html

    IT IS UNLAWFUL FOR INDIVIDUALS TO TRANSFER FIREARMS ACROSS STATE LINES.

    IT IS ALSO UNLAWFUL FOR AN INDIVIDUAL TO SHIP PISTOLS VIA THE U.S.POSTAL SERVICE!!!
    Here is an update on how it really works:

    My FFL dealer told me shipping the guns from Ohio to him was not required. All I had to do was bring the guns up from Ohio and take them to the Oakland County Sheriff's Office (I live in their patrol area), Records Bureau for registration.

    I verified this with the SO and they were kind enough to refer me to a link on the Sheriff's Web site (http://www.oakgov.com/sheriff/record/) which reads:

    I just moved to Michigan from another state. How do I register my firearm(s)? If you live in one of the communities patrolled by the Sheriff's Office or the Michigan State Police, bring the firearm into the Records Bureau of the Sheriff's Office. Make sure the weapon is unloaded and encased. It may also be helpful to bring prior state registrations (if applicable). We may need to hold the firearms overnight to conduct a record check on it. If the firearm is clear (not stolen, etc.), a Safety Inspection (gun registration) card will be issued.

    I followed the rules posted and it works just like it says.


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