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Johnny Law wrote:
TechnoWeenie wrote:
So you don't resist, corrupt officer that just beat your ass KNOWS he has nothing on you, and arrests you for CDS paraphernalia/possession (plants weed, claims to find a bowl)... So you comply, and not only do you get an ass beating, but a felony rap on top of it.
OR, you resist, kill him (hopefully it doesn't go that far), and defend yourself in court against assault/resisting arrest... Meanwhile he's found with said bowl/narcotics on him (which he will claim came from you), but dash cam will say otherwise.
Corrupt Officer........planting evidence?
I think you're missing the point (and watching too much tv). It makes absolutely no difference what the original reason for the arrest was. If ANY arrest or detainment turns into a struggle or fight, the rules have now changed and the ante is upped. If the Officer feels it has now become a life or death struggle, He may and will use deadly force JUSTIFIABLY. It makes no difference if it began as a misdemeanor or other petty crime.
Yes, I know the likelihood of that happening is down there with getting struck by a meteorite, but it has happened.
Remember grandma who was killed because she shot at 'officers' kicking in her door, who then planted weed, coerced a CI to lie, falsified affidavits, etc etc..
I was PISSED, as they should've been sent to jail for life, instead they get a slap on the wrist, utter BS..
EVERY officer I talk to is disgusted with the situation, and wanted those guys to pay dearly, since it makes everyone distrust officers.. Yet , still.... Look what happened... nada..
I would only resist an unlawful arrest if I was 120% sure it was indeed unlawful AND I felt that my safety/wellbeing/liberty was in jeopardy. Because it would, instantly, for all intents and purposes, become an escalation to deadly force, as words would turn into a scuffle, which would turn to pepper/baton/radio (whatever was handy), which would turn to firearms...
I was 'scarred' if you will, by experiences in my youth...
Apparently,myself, a 16 y/o 6' white male wearing jeans looks like a skinny black male about 5'5 wearing all black and a hoodie :uhoh:... I had a gun pulled on me while I was riding a bike, by an officer who claimed I matched the description of a robbery suspect. (robbery happened hours ago, I heard the BOLO go out, stayed out of the area for a few hours, then resumed going down to radio shack, which, I later found out was the place that got robbed, unbeknown to me)
I had an officer threaten my life, on a traffic stop...
I had an officer threaten to arrest me when I was trying to comfort a friend because someone smashed her windows on her car.. Because I told him I was gonna call his supervisor because he refused to write a property damage report (the value was above $1,000 - the min. required for a report)
I had an officer outright lie in a police report/warrant affidavit saying I claimed I was a PAID firefighter (never was, only volunteer) which resulted in a charge that got thrown out with a stern warning from the judge to the officer about making sure that what is in his report/affidavits are accurate.
I had an officer call me 'absolutely useless' followed by 'just get out of here, you can't do anything for me' because HE wanted surveillance footage, but I witnessed the attempted theft, then starting yelling at me about how I wasn't who he wanted, and that I needed to go get so and so (who I didn't know, I just saw the attempted theft and reported it), just utterly disrespectful...
I had an officer threaten to arrest me for disorderly conduct because I took a picture of his *cough* unmarked *cough* car.. After asking me 'What the @#$%' I was doing, in a public parking lot no less... I called his bluff, he told me to put my hands behind my back, I refused, quoted the state law (NOT WA) that allowed me to resist an unlawful arrest, and he then demanded my camera, I again refused, at which point a FEMALE officer came out of the vehicle, essentially told the other officer to back off (she'd 'handle it'), and talked to me calmly and professionally.. We talked for about 30 seconds, and obliged her with my ID, acknowledging that I have no problem with cooperating, but the officer was out of line, and even though I wasn't required to ID I was doing so out of courtesy since she was polite.. She apologized for the officers reactions, handed my ID back, and wished me a good night...
And FUNNY ENOUGH, I start a company actually HELPING them by equipping their cars...
Why? You ask?
I've run into literally thousands of officers since then, without a problem, all great people....
And you know what? Do I remember the THOUSANDS of officers I've dealt with that are awesome people? Nah.. not really... The good guys tend to blend in..
But I do remember every damned bit of detail in those situations with officers that wanted to go on a power trip, threaten me, lie, etc etc...
I know that 99% of the officers out there are good people, but it's that 1% that REALLY @#$% up peoples lives, and there is almost ZERO accountability for their actions.
If I got those people on tape, you REALLY think that they'd let me walk away with evidence? Hell no. The same guy that wanted to arrest me for disorderly conduct and erase my pictures (all illegally, of course) wouldn't hesitate to make up something to arrest me and 'drop' my camera...
The GOOD cops NEVER have a problem being on tape, because they don't do anything that would put them in a bad light..
It's always the guys yelling "TURN THAT OFF NOW!" that you have to worry about, those same officers are gonna be destroying evidence, lying, etc.. So it's hard to catch them UNLESS you resist..
Edited for spelling/grammatical errors.
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