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    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091225/..._army_shooting

    LITTLE ROCK, Ark. – A Salvation Army worker was shot and killed Christmas Eve in front of his three young children during an attempted robbery outside the charity's community center in North Little Rock, a Salvation Army official said Friday.
    North Little Rock police said they were looking for the two men who accosted Salvation Army Maj. Philip Wise outside the community center about 4:15 p.m. Thursday. No arrests have been made.
    The two men fled on foot into a nearby housing development, police Sgt. Terry Kuykendall said Friday. Police don't know whether Wise, who was active in the community, knew his attackers, he said.
    Wise, 40, had gone to the community center with his children to pick up his wife — also a Salvation Army major — to drive to his mother's home in West Virginia, said Maj. Harvey Johnson, area commander of the Salvation Army. As Wise neared the side door, two men approached.
    Both men were carrying hand guns, police said. One demanded money and shot Wise, Pulaski County Coroner Garland Camper told the Arkansas Democrat-Gazette. Wise's wife, Cindy, was inside the center and called 911.
    Blood stained the sidewalk outside the center Friday.
    The Wises had just adopted their children — ages 4, 6 and 8 — last year, Johnson said. The three were siblings who came from an abusive family. They were receiving counseling after their father's death, he said.
    Kuykendall said the children were standing beside their father when he was shot, but there was apparently no interaction between the youngsters and the two men.
    Wise had worked for three years in Baring Cross, a low-income neighborhood troubled by gangs and drugs, Johnson said. He ran youth programs, a food pantry and church services.
    "He was involved in the fabric of that community in a lot of different ways," Johnson said.
    He described Wise as "a big boy" who played "a big old tuba" in a brass ensemble and used his love of music to try help others.
    "He encouraged kids in music as an alternative to the life they were living," he said.
    Kuykendall said he knew Wise, although they were not close friends.
    "Mr. Wise within the last two months had spent so much time raising money so that several hundred children in this community could have a good Christmas, and for this to happen ... on Christmas Eve is just a tragedy," he said.
    Wise was originally from Weirton, W.Va., and his wife, Cindy, was from Charleston, W.Va. They met 16 years ago at a Salvation Army school in Atlanta, Johnson said. Both had worked for the Salvation Army ever since.
    "He's touched a lot of people," Johnson said. "But who would he have touched if he had been able to live out his career?"


    This is such a sad event. I send my prayers to the wife and children. Now this makes me want to OC more than ever, to let those animals KNOW that citizens are not afraid any more. The more law abiding people are armed, the less likely crimes will happen from savages like those two.



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    Absolutely horrible. Thugs like that are not worthy of being considered human, and should receive punishments befitting sick dogs that are rabid.

    My thoughts to the family, this is truly sad

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    It's a crying shame. The Sally does some great work to help what some think of asthe dregs of society. They save lives.

    We live in a society where violence can erupt in a few seconds and a good man can be taken from us.

    It's not fair.

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    All armies should be armed.

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    I Agree!

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    Riddle me this? Why do they call our military, Armed Forces if the only time they are armed is during drills or actual war? Yes, they should always be armed, on duty, off duty, at all times and everywhere but in the shower.
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    amzbrady wrote:
    Riddle me this? Why do they call our military, Armed Forces if the only time they are armed is during drills or actual war? Yes, they should always be armed, on duty, off duty, at all times and everywhere but in the shower.
    Uhh... because of a little thing called the Posse Comitatus act?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posse_Comitatus_Act

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    Posse Comitatus addresses using the military in a civilian law enforcement capacity.
    This would not bar soldiers from being armed at all times.

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    Or just arm us Coasties since we are not subject to that law :P

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    jchen012 wrote:
    Or just arm us Coasties since we are not subject to that law :P
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posse_Comitatus_Act
    With an important foot note...

    The original Posse Comitatus Act referred essentially to the United States Army. The Air Force was added in 1956 and the Navy and the Marine Corps have been included by a regulation of the Department of Defense. The United States Coast Guard, when acting in its peacetime capacity (originally as part of the Treasury Department, later the Department of Transportation, and now within the Department of Homeland Security), is not included in the Act. However, if, in wartime, a portion of the Coast Guard were subsumed within the Department of the Navy, as it was during World War II, that portion would lose its federal police power authority and responsibility over the federal law enforcement duties of its civilian mission. This law is often relied upon to prevent the Department of Defense from interfering in domestic law enforcement.

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    Hey FMCDH, are you still in? I'm a reservist MST3 over at Sector.

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    jchen012 wrote:
    Hey FMCDH, are you still in? I'm a reservist MST3 over at Sector.
    Yep, active duty with ESU Seattle.

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