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    The Washington Wizards said point guard Gilbert Arenas stored firearms in his locker at the Verizon Center and that the NBA is investigating the matter.

    "The Washington Wizards have learned that Gilbert Arenas stored firearms in a locked container in his locker, unloaded and without ammunition," the team said in a statement. "The Wizards organization and Arenas promptly notified the local authorities and the NBA, are cooperating fully with law enforcement during its review of this matter and will have no further comment at this time."

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    This is really bad for him - possible felony conviction with jail time - bad had he walked thru DC with the guns en route to a DC gun buy back program he would be 100% legal under DC law.

    This guy needs a really good and connected lawyer in DC ASAP.

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    Wanted to get the guns out of the house because of a newborn? Did the new parents realize you do not have to store the firearm loaded and in the crib?


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    It is a sports celebrity, Nothing is going to happen to this guy!!

    Remember when the Chicago Bulls were on their multi-season winning streak? I think it was around the 2nd or3rd championship win when Scotty Pippin was pulled overon a traffic stop, and the cop found a loaded pistol in his Range Rover, Amazingly how he never spent any jailtime from that!!
    And this happened in IL, I believe it was highland Park IL.

    The same rules do not apply for low-intelligence sports celebrities as they do for regular jackoffs like us, it is proven every day!
    Watch this case unfold for my statements to be proven.

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    Nutczak wrote:
    It is a sports celebrity, Nothing is going to happen to this guy!!

    Remember when the Chicago Bulls were on their multi-season winning streak? I think it was around the 2nd or3rd championship win when Scotty Pippin was pulled overon a traffic stop, and the cop found a loaded pistol in his Range Rover, Amazingly how he never spent any jailtime from that!!
    And this happened in IL, I believe it was highland Park IL.

    The same rules do not apply for low-intelligence sports celebrities as they do for regular jackoffs like us, it is proven every day!
    Watch this case unfold for my statements to be proven.
    I would probably agree if the violation took place other than DC. I don't think his celebrity status is going tobuy him much leniency in the District.

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    My bet is that he gets suspended from the NBA, he spends no time in jail, he pays a fine, and he becomes the spokesperson for the Brady Bunch as part of his community service spewing anti-gun messages to kids (since he is considered a role model).:what:

    I remember the story about Scotty Pippen (I am a Chicago Bulls fan). It was a non-story because nothing happened to him. I believe one of the Dallas Cowbows' coaches went through the secure area (metal detector) of an airport with a gun in his travel bag and he didn't spend any time in jail (if I remember correctly).

    Celebs are treated different than Joe/Jane public. That's the bottom line! I personally hope he gets the same punishment that I would get if I did the same thing (I won't hold my breath).

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    Plaxico Burress who shot himself in the leg in Manhattan then went back to NJ for treatment plead guilty to some felony or other, I'm thinking he will do some time, not a lot but enough to send a message.

    2A incorporation can't come soon enough.

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    These celebrities that get busted for the 2A are either pussies or ex-cons. If I had millions and no criminal record, I'd be hiring Alan Gura to take my case and these traitorous bastards and their patently evil laws all the way to SCOTUS.

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    If the firearm is registered with DC -- which by the way requires him to be a resident of the District --the situation is storing a registered unloaded firearm in a locked case at his place of employment. Not sure that is a crime. If the firearm is unregistered, DC law makes that a misdemeanor I believe. Transportinga firearm unloaded in a locked container also does not appear to be the crime of carrying a pistol without a license, a felony in the District, and by the way, they will not issue a license. But that does not mean he would not be charged for it.

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    ianto94 wrote:
    If the firearm is registered with DC -- which by the way requires him to be a resident of the District --the situation is storing a registered unloaded firearm in a locked case at his place of employment. Not sure that is a crime. If the firearm is unregistered, DC law makes that a misdemeanor I believe. Transportinga firearm unloaded in a locked container also does not appear to be the crime of carrying a pistol without a license, a felony in the District, and by the way, they will not issue a license. But that does not mean he would not be charged for it.
    I know he has a home in Great falls, VA and another one in a Los Angeles suburb (Encino, CA). I am not sure what his residence status is, so I won't venture to guess that he is actually a resident of DC (because I can't bring myself to believe that he would bring weapons from Great Falls or Encino to DC, just to get rid of them because he has a small kid in the house). Something stinks to high heaven here. I still say thathe gets suspended from the NBA, he spends no time in jail, he pays a fine, and he becomes the spokesperson for the Brady Bunch as part of his community service spewing anti-gun messages to kids (since he is considered a role model). I guess we will have to wait an see.

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    And to think... this team used to be named 'The Bullets'. (It's easier to take a Wizz than take a Bullet...!)

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    Mike wrote:
    This is really bad for him - possible felony conviction with jail time - bad had he walked thru DC with the guns en route to a DC gun buy back program he would be 100% legal under DC law.

    This guy needs a really good and connected lawyer in DC ASAP.
    Hopefully he can stretch out the case until after the 2ndHeller case. Can't be prosecuted for a law the Supremes say is unconstitutional.
    He wore his gun outside his pants for all the honest world to see. Pancho & Lefty

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    Thundar wrote:
    Hopefully he can stretch out the case until after the 2ndHeller case.
    So far, there's not a case to stretch.


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    KBCraig wrote:
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    Hopefully he can stretch out the case until after the 2ndHeller case.
    So far, there's not a case to stretch.
    You are right KB, the 2nd Heller Case (right to bear arms)is still at the Court of Appeals for the DC Circuit. To be heard in January or February I believe.

    2nd Hellerwill go to SCOTUS unlessthe MacDonald case rules definitively on bearing arms.


    He wore his gun outside his pants for all the honest world to see. Pancho & Lefty

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    That's actually Palmer v. DC for bearing arms. I think Heller is involved in challenging DC's gun roster and registration requirements.

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    Agreed. He'll get a slap on the wrist. If they try to hit him with a big felony, he has the resources to mount a court challenge. And we know DC isn't faring well in court these.

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    stored in his locker..........well, at least he knew where they were.

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    I just saw something come across the wire on ESPN about Arenas, gambling, pulling a gun on someone (the person's name starts with a "C"), and the NBA investigating it. Did anyone catch that? I am going to try to get more details (more to come). Happy New Year!!:celebrate

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    Smurfologist wrote:
    I just saw something come across the wire on ESPN about Arenas, gambling, pulling a gun on someone (the person's name starts with a "C"), and the NBA investigating it. Did anyone catch that? I am going to try to get more details (more to come). Happy New Year!!:celebrate

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    The guy's name is Crittenton:

    http://www.cbssports.com/nba/story/1...-on-each-other

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    Thugs off the court, thugs in the locker room. What's the difference?

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    .......You (Arenas) can do whatever you like........You can do whatever you like..........Yeah!!!!! Store three guns in the Verizon Center........Keep 'em warm in the winter........You can do whatever you like......You can do whatever you like........Yeah!!! LoL!!!

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    Pollin Family Statement:

    We want to take a moment to address our Wizards fans and the public. The situation involving an incident in the locker room is troubling to our family, our organization and our fans. We know our fans are frustrated and angry. The fact that guns were brought to the Verizon Center is dangerous and disappointing and showed extremely poor judgment. Guns have absolutely no place in a workplace environment and we will take further steps to ensure this never happens again. While the police investigation proceeds, we are limited in what we can say, but we want our fans to know that we will not rest until this situation is resolved and has come to a satisfactory conclusion. On behalf of the Wizards organization, we want to thank our fans for their support during this very difficult time.

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    I don't like the "Guns have absolutely no place in a workplace environment" comment.

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    There is a lot more to this story than ArenaS just having guns in his locker. It appears that he is going to be facing some serious charges and being an NBA star may not cut it. If the stories are true here it appears that there is nore than just one goof with a gun involved.


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    Wizards star Gilbert Arenas won't be able to laugh off repercussions from cops and the league
    By Jim Litke (CP) – 3 hours ago

    What apparently began as a practical joke would have turned out a lot funnier if only Gilbert Arenas brought a squirt gun to work instead of the real thing.

    Now there's no laughing it off.

    The Wizards star is scheduled to meet Monday with law-enforcement authorities to present his side of the story about a locker-room dispute with teammate Javaris Crittenton nearly two weeks ago. Not only does Washington, D.C., have some of the strictest handgun laws in the nation, but federal authorities are investigating as well.

    Yet even if Arenas's legal headaches end there, he still could face a lengthy suspension from NBA commissioner David Stern and tempt the Wizards to invoke a morals clause in the standard NBA player contract and seek to void the remainder of a six-year, US$111-million deal signed in 2008.

    "I know Gilbert is a good guy," Pacers guard T.J. Ford said. "I don't think, like he said in his statement, that he was trying to hurt anybody."

    Probably not.

    But Arenas has already tarnished his image as one of pro basketball's more entertaining and eccentric personalities, and put the league on the spot. The NBA's gun culture is no more prevalent than that of other leagues, nor the population in general, yet every time an athlete gets caught with a weapon, the publicity feeds the public notion that officials are incapable of policing their players.

    That perception, in part, led to the NBA's toughened antigun stance in the collective bargaining agreement, which bars league personnel from bringing weapons to league property, sites or charitable events.

    Arenas has already admitted bringing three unloaded firearms to the Verizon Center - to get them out of the house and away from his kids - and storing them in a locked container. According to Yahoo! Sports, he took them out of the container before a Dec. 21 practice and laid the guns on a chair, then told Crittenton to choose one and make good on a threat that stemmed from a card game on a late-night flight from Phoenix back to Washington two days earlier.

    As the game got more expensive, Crittenton joked about what could happen to people who didn't honour their debts. Arenas has a well-deserved reputation as a prankster and laying out the guns apparently was his way of trying to diffuse any lingering tension between the two.

    Instead, the gesture enraged Crittenton. According to a New York Post report, Arenas and Crittenton wound up drawing guns on each other.

    "I can't speak on that," Arenas said Saturday. "But if you know me, you've been here, I've never did anything (involving) violence. Anything I do is funny - well, it's funny to me."

    Asked if the accounts of what happened have been blown out of proportion, Arenas laughed and said: "A little."

    His standing with the Wizards was already shaky. Arenas missed almost two seasons because of knee surgery, and his problems with former coach Eddie Jordan have only exacerbated under new coach Flip Saunders. Arenas' production barely justified his selfishness in seasons past, but he hardly resembles the scorer he was then.

    Teammates who tolerated Arenas once now find him frustrating.

    His defenders say the needling, as well as the need to laugh everything off, is Arenas' way of coping - with insecurity, a tough childhood and being overlooked at the start of both his college and pro careers.

    "I'm a goof ball and that's what I am, so even doing something like this, I'm going to make fun of it and that's how I am," Arenas said. "Some people say I'm not taking it serious, but why be depressed at home when I can just make myself laugh?"

    The problem with gunplay, though, is that it's never funny and that a casual attitude toward violence only encourages more of the same. Arenas has already been suspended once, after pleading no contest to misdemeanour weapons and vehicle charges following a traffic stop in California 2003; he sat out Washington's season opener in 2004.

    No matter how this latest incident is handled by authorities, Arenas should know better than to expect leniency this time around.

    Another former NBA player got off easy the first time he, too, was charged with a weapons violation, lecturing schoolkids and taking out ads in the local newspaper touting gun safety.

    His name is Jayson Williams. As you read this, he is scheduled to be retried on a reckless manslaughter charge in the shooting death of a limousine driver during a party at his home

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    He has now been charged with FELONY gun posession without a permit.
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    Shovelhead wrote:
    He has now been charged with FELONY gun posession without a permit.
    The actual charge is carrying a hand gun without a license. Apparently the view is he carried a gun (actual four of them) in setting up his so-called practical joke. Of course you cannot obtain a license to carry in DC. At least not yet. That may change based on the pending Palmer v. DC case.

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